AI Controls (formerly 'kill switch') are landing in today's Firefox Nightly, and will land with Firefox 148 later this month.
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@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny but will they be promoted as alternative options directly in the context of the built-in translation tool?
@fasterandworse @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny I'm not aware of any plan for that. I guess it's similar to the bookmark system not promoting other bookmarking solutions.
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@duke_of_germany
just to confirm: i've used Firefox almost since it was released, and been the person who pushes it on people i know.i've stopped using it, 100% caused by the odd priorities at Mozilla, with AI as the final drop.
not saying this in order to convince them to change direction. i'm gone and i no longer care. it's just a factual contribution to the discussion.
@bjoernstaerk @duke_of_germany @jonny @jaffathecake @firefoxwebdevs @davidgerard Yep - exactly the same with me. There are lots of browser choices and I've chosen that Firefox is no longer one of them.
For me, it was the change in policy for being not able to say "we don't sell your data" and not Ai - but the Ai stance doesn't make me want to come back.
Saying that the “Mastodon users don't like Ai" is a pretty sweeping generalization and it's easy to interpret as negative.
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@fennix to be clear, I'm not playing this off as a mastodon thing. I mean… if my intent was to ignore people here, I've done a pretty bad job of that given I've engaged with people most of today.
My point was that if you run a poll about AI preference on Mastodon, it's pretty obvious what the outcome will be. That doesn't mean it isn't valid, it just means that putting effort into discovering what's already discovered is a misuse of time.
@jaffathecake @fennix fyi you can ignore people while ostensibly engaging them. this is easy to do if you deliberately do not address the actual points people are making and instead focus on semantics.
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@fasterandworse @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny I'm not aware of any plan for that. I guess it's similar to the bookmark system not promoting other bookmarking solutions.
@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny unfortunately the addons library has a bunch of plugins to improve the firefox bookmarking system but not so many to replace it
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@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny that reply is another example of Doing It Again, fwiw.
@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny I’ve given this a couple of hours (and I’m willing to give it a day or two)
But I want to point out to you, @jaffathecake, that your silence and non-engagement here is not going to be read favourably. By anyone.
And they can see you’ve engaged elsewhere.
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@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny I’ve given this a couple of hours (and I’m willing to give it a day or two)
But I want to point out to you, @jaffathecake, that your silence and non-engagement here is not going to be read favourably. By anyone.
And they can see you’ve engaged elsewhere.
@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny my engagements have slowed because it's evening for me. Your sense of entitlement over my time in general is misplaced, especially during my personal time. To be entirely clear: you have no right to my personal attention.
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny my engagements have slowed because it's evening for me. Your sense of entitlement over my time in general is misplaced, especially during my personal time. To be entirely clear: you have no right to my personal attention.
@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny also, if you were behaving like this towards me in a bar, as in hassling me for direct attention, during my personal time, well this feels like a much more justifiable reason to have you ejected vs the situation you mentioned earlier. Do you understand?
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@thehighseas@ioc.exchange @jaffathecake @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs Jake is furiously throwing up anything he can to distract from the question of AI in Firefox. That is literally the job he is paid to be here to do, yes.
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny my engagements have slowed because it's evening for me. Your sense of entitlement over my time in general is misplaced, especially during my personal time. To be entirely clear: you have no right to my personal attention.
@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny I didn’t claim any, and the attitude of your response *once again* portrays the problem highlighted to you
That said, I’ll still check up in a day or two
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny also, if you were behaving like this towards me in a bar, as in hassling me for direct attention, during my personal time, well this feels like a much more justifiable reason to have you ejected vs the situation you mentioned earlier. Do you understand?
@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny Fuck right off with the DARVO kthx
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny also, if you were behaving like this towards me in a bar, as in hassling me for direct attention, during my personal time, well this feels like a much more justifiable reason to have you ejected vs the situation you mentioned earlier. Do you understand?
@jaffathecake @froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny this is a very thudding and obvious attempt to distract from answering the actual question
you need to be more subtle to pull this one off
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny also, if you were behaving like this towards me in a bar, as in hassling me for direct attention, during my personal time, well this feels like a much more justifiable reason to have you ejected vs the situation you mentioned earlier. Do you understand?
@jaffathecake @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny You kind of suck at this whole marketing thing.
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@wojtek
Nope, it's not the same.@wariat @fabio @firefoxwebdevs sure!
but let's step back - why do you want it to be "opt-out"?
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@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny Fuck right off with the DARVO kthx
@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny ok you've absolutely had enough of my attention.
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@reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny I don't believe I described Fedi as something negative. What did I miss?
@jaffathecake @reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny that part where you wrote that bringing up concerns of fedi users would have been a waste of your time.
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@jaffathecake @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny You kind of suck at this whole marketing thing.
@reflex @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny the service staff that have to deal with you have my condolences. I am not one of them.
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@froztbyte @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny ok you've absolutely had enough of my attention.
@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @reflex @ddelemeny aww is the widdle abuser angry nao?
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@jaffathecake @reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny that part where you wrote that bringing up concerns of fedi users would have been a waste of your time.
@spz @reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny a deliberate misinterpretation. Nice try.
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@spz @reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny a deliberate misinterpretation. Nice try.
@jaffathecake @reflex @froztbyte @ddelemeny allll the world is misinterpreting you SO BADLY. How EVER could that have come to pass?
sheesh.
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@reflex @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny the service staff that have to deal with you have my condolences. I am not one of them.
@jaffathecake @reflex @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny you should have seen this one time I ordered a burger and the waiter served me a salad and I said I ordered a burger but he kept talking about vegetarians and how the plate was designed based on feedback from a poll about the best colours with the options being brown, grey, and
️ but every time I asked about the burger the waiter told me that vegetarians don't like to eat meat
