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for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter"

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  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @vampiress @jplebreton I agree. I stopped having heroes a long, long time ago. There are still people I admire, of course. The distinction, I think, between having a hero and admiring someone is whether or not it becomes an attack on one's own identity to realize that the person in question is flawed (perhaps irredeemably so). It's painful to lose a hero.

    I admired Noam Chomsky for many years. Then I found out that he not only remained friends with Epstein, but also advised him and thought he was a "victim of the press" after it became public knowledge that Epstein was a serial rapist. Someone with so spectacularly bad moral judgment is not a person I can admire, so I stopped admiring him. This wasn't painful at all.

    (There are few people left in the tech / software sphere I admire.)

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    • pythno@mastodon.gamedev.placeP pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @jplebreton to be fair he was highly sceptical of the metaverse thing. But otherwise I fully agree. Very sad to see his trajectory.

      wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.placeW This user is from outside of this forum
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      #26

      @pythno @jplebreton Hm? From what I recall, he was very fond of the Snow Crash book, from where the term sources?

      I (tried to) read it, and jeez, the themes in that book are *ugly*. Another puzzle piece that fits, though.

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      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

        for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
        he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
        increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

        floe@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @jplebreton Sigh, another datapoint in the list of "people who may have been decent once and got turned into assholes by too much money". ๐Ÿ™„

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        • floe@hci.socialF floe@hci.social

          @jplebreton Sigh, another datapoint in the list of "people who may have been decent once and got turned into assholes by too much money". ๐Ÿ™„

          datarama@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #28

          @floe @jplebreton Another reason billionaires should not exist - for the sake of the billionaires too.

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          • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

            for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
            he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
            increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

            chrisp@cyberplace.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #29

            @jplebreton He's done a real Carmack reverse since working on Wolfenstein.

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            • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

              for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
              he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
              increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

              aerique@genart.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jplebreton Him starting to work at Oculus and not leaving after the umpteenth Facebook scandal was a signal already.

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              • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

                megatronicthronbanks@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #31

                @jplebreton I always knew Carmack was going to snap. Some types of nerd should NOT be allowed contact with the real world.

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                • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                  for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                  he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                  increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

                  varpie@peculiar.floristV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @jplebreton Surely, he's being sarcastic here, right? ... Right?

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                  • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                    for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                    he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                    increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

                    fangh@shelter.moeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @jplebreton I'm sad. Carmack is my favorite game developer

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                    • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                      for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                      he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                      increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

                      ewhac@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #34

                      @jplebreton I've only spoken to the guy once, about 25 years ago -- he gave me advice on how to deal with texture priorities in an OpenGL driver I was writing for BeOS (his advice: ignore it).

                      Rather than wealth itself, or an intrinsic personality flaw, I think the greater influence leading him down this dark path was simply *being* at Facebook, five days a week, around all those other people who see nothing wrong with what they're doing at Facebook.

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                      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                        a hero is not a person; it is an image. heroes are not stocks you invest in or a religion you join.
                        a hero is a mental image of something you want to do or become, formed around a real person who likely shits their pants and fucks up constantly.
                        don't let any of that keep you from dreaming of and working for a good, kind, just world, and becoming the best person you can be.

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                        #35

                        @jplebreton beatifully written.

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                        • wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.placeW wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @pythno @jplebreton Hm? From what I recall, he was very fond of the Snow Crash book, from where the term sources?

                          I (tried to) read it, and jeez, the themes in that book are *ugly*. Another puzzle piece that fits, though.

                          morten_skaaning@mastodon.gamedev.placeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #36

                          @wolfpld @pythno @jplebreton there is "Metaverse" as whatever the actual product was at Facebook. And "Metaverse" as a fiction in a book. I haven't read Snow Crash, so I took it to vaguely mean "cyberspace". I take it the Metaverse in Snow Crash has bad connotations?

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                          • wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.placeW wolfpld@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @pythno @jplebreton Hm? From what I recall, he was very fond of the Snow Crash book, from where the term sources?

                            I (tried to) read it, and jeez, the themes in that book are *ugly*. Another puzzle piece that fits, though.

                            floooh@mastodon.gamedev.placeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @wolfpld @pythno @jplebreton for being written in 1992 Snow Crash nailed the "trajectory" of the US as a future failed state pretty well though. I remember that when I read it first (around 2005 maybe?) that I found that aspect of the story quite unbelievable. In the last decade or so it got a lot more believable.

                            But yeah, shame about Carmack.

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                            • morten_skaaning@mastodon.gamedev.placeM morten_skaaning@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @wolfpld @pythno @jplebreton there is "Metaverse" as whatever the actual product was at Facebook. And "Metaverse" as a fiction in a book. I haven't read Snow Crash, so I took it to vaguely mean "cyberspace". I take it the Metaverse in Snow Crash has bad connotations?

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                              #38

                              @morten_skaaning @wolfpld @pythno @jplebreton Snow Crash's Metaverse is pretty much exactly how you imagine it, a virtual space where you log into as an avatar. The interesting part is rather how the "remains" of the US is depicted.

                              Also important to know when 'judging' the quality of the book: it was supposed to be a comic project, which was then "salvaged" into a novel. Explains a lot of the writing style ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              • floooh@mastodon.gamedev.placeF floooh@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                @morten_skaaning @wolfpld @pythno @jplebreton Snow Crash's Metaverse is pretty much exactly how you imagine it, a virtual space where you log into as an avatar. The interesting part is rather how the "remains" of the US is depicted.

                                Also important to know when 'judging' the quality of the book: it was supposed to be a comic project, which was then "salvaged" into a novel. Explains a lot of the writing style ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                @floooh @morten_skaaning @pythno @jplebreton The book setting is basically everything that's wrong with the US, but turned up to 11. I wrote about it shortly some time ago, here's the translation.

                                For context, you might have heard who Korwin is from the EU parliament already: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39152562

                                The tubeworms quote is a reference to his direct-to-meme, 100% serious rant about "social parasites who do nothing" or something like that.

                                The movie is https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780622/

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                                • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                  for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                                  he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                                  increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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                                  @jplebreton If you are up for a challenge: try to name just one self-identified libertarian tech millionaire who has not yet adopted fascism

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                                  • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                    for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                                    he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                                    increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

                                    westerninfidels@mefi.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @jplebreton Carmack was a literal juvenile delinquent, id software was birthed from larceny, and what self-awareness Carmack displayed came well into adulthood. Then he married a Randroid. He's long been a poster child for "Engineer's Disease," telling himself "I'm logical about software development, so obviously all my opinions and biases are also based on logic."

                                    He may be especially vulnerable to the charms of the hermetically-sealed thought-bubble of TESCREAL, but the real problem is the system that shuttles vulnerable people into that thought-bubble.

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                                    • trobador@mastodon.socialT trobador@mastodon.social

                                      @jplebreton If you are up for a challenge: try to name just one self-identified libertarian tech millionaire who has not yet adopted fascism

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                                      @trobador oh i know exactly where that leads ๐Ÿ˜‘

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                                      • westerninfidels@mefi.socialW westerninfidels@mefi.social

                                        @jplebreton Carmack was a literal juvenile delinquent, id software was birthed from larceny, and what self-awareness Carmack displayed came well into adulthood. Then he married a Randroid. He's long been a poster child for "Engineer's Disease," telling himself "I'm logical about software development, so obviously all my opinions and biases are also based on logic."

                                        He may be especially vulnerable to the charms of the hermetically-sealed thought-bubble of TESCREAL, but the real problem is the system that shuttles vulnerable people into that thought-bubble.

                                        jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #43

                                        @WesternInfidels right yeah, capital has this vast cultural substrate out there that's ready to absorb kids who grow STEM-affine brains and funnel them towards becoming proudly selfish, politically oblivious and incurious, empathy-free young adults, at which point they're making good enough money that they see that system as the best possible outcome for humanity, no matter how much evidence piles up to the contrary as history unfolds.

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                                        • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                                          for those tracking John Carmack's descent into right wing total moral disorientation, he's now at "Palmer Luckey should buy Wired and do to it what Elon Musk did to Twitter".
                                          he's full fash at this point. totally gonna deliver AGI by 2030 though.
                                          increasingly disgusting that he named his shitass company after Commander Keen, a joyful little video game from before he became a millionaire and was empowered to become his worst self.

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                                          @jplebreton Had to look him up. Sent to juvie at 14 for psych eval after master-minding a theft of taxpayer-funded computers supplied for students. Yeah, that does start to suggest some kind of pathology, even at that age.

                                          Made his name and fortune on various v-game tech advances, and good for him. That doesn't suggest he should be running society, though.

                                          There seems to be a rather childish edit war on his vaguely hagiographic WP article, and I strongly suspect he's involved in it.

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