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  • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

    I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

    * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
    * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
    * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

    I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

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    jackryder@infosec.exchange
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    @carlrichell It might be a tad dated but

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    Avi Schiffmann - Wikipedia

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    (en.wikipedia.org)

    Avi Schiffmann built a Covid-19 tracker when he was in Highschool.

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    • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

      @neal with the way this worked out, I believe we now have a sound template to start working in other states. I haven't found the amended text online but will post as soon I do. Our next step is a letter to the CO reps that we need to pass the bill with these amendments, then adapting that letter to other states and working with the open source community to raise awareness.

      jzb@hachyderm.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @carlrichell @neal I'm assuming you've seen that this has gone national? Any activity there?

      Are you working with @eff on any of this? I hope they're also poking about here.

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      • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

        I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

        * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
        * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
        * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

        I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

        moonleay@mastodon.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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        moonleay@mastodon.de
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        @carlrichell I am using Linux since I was 15 or so. If wouldn't know half as much about computers, servers and networking, if I hadn't had access to Linux, FOSS & open computer equipment at a young age.

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        • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

          I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

          * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
          * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
          * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

          I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

          ernmander@squatch.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
          ernmander@squatch.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
          ernmander@squatch.online
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          @carlrichell Good luck on Thursday Carl

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          • moonleay@mastodon.deM moonleay@mastodon.de

            @carlrichell I am using Linux since I was 15 or so. If wouldn't know half as much about computers, servers and networking, if I hadn't had access to Linux, FOSS & open computer equipment at a young age.

            carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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            carlrichell@fosstodon.org
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            @moonleay yes, and gotta have root to really learn!

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            • J jackryder@infosec.exchange

              @carlrichell It might be a tad dated but

              Link Preview Image
              Avi Schiffmann - Wikipedia

              favicon

              (en.wikipedia.org)

              Avi Schiffmann built a Covid-19 tracker when he was in Highschool.

              carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
              carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
              carlrichell@fosstodon.org
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              @jackryder that's a great story. Thanks for sharing!

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                @carlrichell idk if this is anything, but my whole career as a programmer and software creator is thanks to being able to freely tinker with computers and the software running on them back in the late 80s and 90s

                carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                carlrichell@fosstodon.org
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                @thomasfuchs the public's idea of computing has shifted to consuming apps. Open platforms are more important now than ever.

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                • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                  @moonleay yes, and gotta have root to really learn!

                  eickot@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  eickot@mastodon.social
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                  @carlrichell @moonleay nothing like breaking linux, to learn how to fix it (replace linux with almost anything)

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                  • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                    I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                    * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                    * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                    * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                    I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                    human3500@ottawa.placeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    human3500@ottawa.place
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                    @carlrichell Linus wasn't quite a kid when he started Linux, but you don't start a big project like that without some small ones under your belt.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

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                    • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                      I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                      * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                      * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                      * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                      I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

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                      evanwolf@mastodon.social
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                      @carlrichell Computer literacy starts young. I started coding at age 12.

                      Kids are citizens too. And civic life, learning what's going on and using your freedoms of speech and assembly, is thru computers. This steps on constitutionally protected civil rights from the first amendment on...

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                      • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                        I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                        * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                        * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                        * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                        I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                        vandorb12@infosec.exchangeV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @carlrichell most would rather this bill not going forward. This does nothing to protect those at risk.
                        Seeing a carveout for FOSS is not enough of an olive branch.

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                        • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                          I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                          * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                          * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                          * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                          I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

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                          @carlrichell dunno if this anywhere near what you aimed for, but my son made this game using the open source game engine Godot and also used Krita to create some of the art: https://store.steampowered.com/app/3565330/Squinky/
                          He's still 13, started at the age of 11 with this project.

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                          • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                            I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                            * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                            * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                            * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                            I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                            chip_unicorn@im-in.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @carlrichell

                            Just visit https://scratch.mit.edu/ for some adorable projects that kids wrote.

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                            • eickot@mastodon.socialE eickot@mastodon.social

                              @carlrichell @moonleay nothing like breaking linux, to learn how to fix it (replace linux with almost anything)

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                              @eickot @carlrichell Nothing like updating Ubuntu and rebooting the PC without GPU drivers 😜

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                              • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                                I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                                * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                                * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                                * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                                I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                                kgf@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                kgf@hachyderm.io
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                                @carlrichell I started learning programming in high school (around age 16) and was messing around with QBASIC years before then. Can't say I would've known to pursue computer science if not for all of that.

                                I also attribute a significant amount of my Linux literacy to an amazing Swedish friend I met online, who IIRC was around 17 years old at the time. He got me started on Slackware in 2002 or 2003. (He was a couple of years younger than me, and unfortunately passed away due to cancer not long after that.)

                                So yeah kids do some pretty cool stuff and can even teach their elders new tricks that can help shape their entire careers.

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                                • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                                  I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                                  * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                                  * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                                  * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                                  I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

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                                  @carlrichell I learned programming by mucking around in GameMaker, I made a brute force factorizing program to check my math homework.

                                  That freedom to build whatever I needed would have been restrained if I couldn't access GameMaker as app at all due to my age.

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                                  • moonleay@mastodon.deM moonleay@mastodon.de

                                    @eickot @carlrichell Nothing like updating Ubuntu and rebooting the PC without GPU drivers 😜

                                    eickot@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @moonleay @carlrichell I remember once that I broke my Xorg config just before an exam. (Yes, it was an update of debian testing)

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                                    • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                                      I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                                      * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                                      * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                                      * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                                      I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                                      qbit@mammothcirc.usQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @carlrichell can we just not pass the bill? Is that even considered?

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                                      • qbit@mammothcirc.usQ qbit@mammothcirc.us

                                        @carlrichell can we just not pass the bill? Is that even considered?

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                                        @qbit @carlrichell Nope.

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                                        • carlrichell@fosstodon.orgC carlrichell@fosstodon.org

                                          I received the amended Colorado Age Attestation bill.

                                          * Open source OS's and apps are excluded
                                          * Code repos are excluded (github/gitlab)
                                          * Containers are excluded (docker/podman)

                                          I testify Thursday and can use your help! I need your stories about incredible things kids have made thanks to access to open source software. Share here or DM me.

                                          deathkitten@firetribe.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @carlrichell@fosstodon.org I get why you're focused on getting open source excluded here, but we really need to be fighting this nonsense as a whole. Surveillance instead of holding toxic social media companies to account for their predatory behavior is insane.

                                          That said, an exception for open source is better than nothing. So thank you for at least trying that much.

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