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"Turkey and South Korea are discussing the joint construction of a nuclear power plant, the latest of recent efforts by Ankara to diversify its energy sources.

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  • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

    "South Korea is considering providing additional energy vouchers to subsidise vulnerable households if rising global fuel prices in the wake of the Middle East crisis push up electricity costs.

    Asia's fourth-largest economy is also preparing to ​boost nuclear and coal-fired power generation in the event that oil prices remain high and ​liquefied natural gas (LNG) supplies are disrupted."

    https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/south-korea-says-considering-energy-vouchers-boosting-coal-nuclear-power-2026-03-13/

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    "Work-from-home orders came back in some countries after years of companies trying to coax workers back to offices after the pandemic, with Vietnam and Thailand reportedly getting employees to work remotely."

    I don't know why the article calls this rational strategy "quirky".

    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/15/price-caps-and-stairs-how-nations-are-coping-with-the-iran-oil-shock.html

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      "Work-from-home orders came back in some countries after years of companies trying to coax workers back to offices after the pandemic, with Vietnam and Thailand reportedly getting employees to work remotely."

      I don't know why the article calls this rational strategy "quirky".

      https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/15/price-caps-and-stairs-how-nations-are-coping-with-the-iran-oil-shock.html

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      By the way: what you hear about now is the reaction of *governments* to the oil price shock.

      You will not hear about families - potentially millions - huddling around their kitchen table to see if the family finances allow for buying or leasing rooftop solar -- until one day it becomes a "surprise" story.

      This is what happened in Pakistan, which went from "from an inconsequential solar market to the sixth-largest in the world."

      See this post and others in the thread:

      https://mastodon.social/@CelloMomOnCars/113579663354525712

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      • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

        By the way: what you hear about now is the reaction of *governments* to the oil price shock.

        You will not hear about families - potentially millions - huddling around their kitchen table to see if the family finances allow for buying or leasing rooftop solar -- until one day it becomes a "surprise" story.

        This is what happened in Pakistan, which went from "from an inconsequential solar market to the sixth-largest in the world."

        See this post and others in the thread:

        https://mastodon.social/@CelloMomOnCars/113579663354525712

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        "Governments ​including Italy and ⁠Hungary are urging Brussels to weaken its climate policies to provide short-term cost relief for industries.

        Stiell will warn that doing this would be "completely ​delusional", according to prepared remarks for an event in Brussels where he ​will argue ⁠the shift to renewable energy means cheaper power and jobs in clean-technology industries."

        https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/cop/iran-war-an-abject-lesson-fossil-fuel-dependence-un-climate-chief-says-2026-03-16/

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        • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

          By the way: what you hear about now is the reaction of *governments* to the oil price shock.

          You will not hear about families - potentially millions - huddling around their kitchen table to see if the family finances allow for buying or leasing rooftop solar -- until one day it becomes a "surprise" story.

          This is what happened in Pakistan, which went from "from an inconsequential solar market to the sixth-largest in the world."

          See this post and others in the thread:

          https://mastodon.social/@CelloMomOnCars/113579663354525712

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          @CelloMomOnCars This is a theme that plays out over and over, it recently informed policymaking here in Puerto Rico, too: Public utilities perpetuate their fossil fuel based electrical generation at the same time as more-affordable solar equipment becomes available. Those with capital access replace their grid-dependency with rooftop solar, leaving the utility to recover fossil fuel capital investment from an ever-decreasing pool of ever-less-wealthy grid-dependent power users -- a utility "death spiral".

          Here in Puerto Rico, the public service commission, under the scrutiny of a congressionally imposed "financial oversight board", has been stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have to take fiscally responsible decisions and they have to avoid the death spiral mode. The vested interests in the traditional grid power delivery systems are having a very difficult time accepting the need to abandon their old power generation and delivery model. The same as everywhere, perhaps.

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            "Governments ​including Italy and ⁠Hungary are urging Brussels to weaken its climate policies to provide short-term cost relief for industries.

            Stiell will warn that doing this would be "completely ​delusional", according to prepared remarks for an event in Brussels where he ​will argue ⁠the shift to renewable energy means cheaper power and jobs in clean-technology industries."

            https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/cop/iran-war-an-abject-lesson-fossil-fuel-dependence-un-climate-chief-says-2026-03-16/

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            The International Energy Agency reminding governments of demand-related policy measures, same as the ones used during the 1970s oil crisis.

            Reduce highway speed limits;
            Encourage public transport;
            Alternate private car access to roads in large cities on different days

            ... and a contemporary one:
            Work from home.

            Just a moment...

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            • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

              The International Energy Agency reminding governments of demand-related policy measures, same as the ones used during the 1970s oil crisis.

              Reduce highway speed limits;
              Encourage public transport;
              Alternate private car access to roads in large cities on different days

              ... and a contemporary one:
              Work from home.

              Just a moment...

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              (www.iea.org)

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              @CelloMomOnCars
              Whatever gets implemented, let’s not revert it if and when the oil crisis resolves. Let’s leave everything in place to combat climate change.
              #ClimateBreakdown #ClimateEmergency

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              • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

                The International Energy Agency reminding governments of demand-related policy measures, same as the ones used during the 1970s oil crisis.

                Reduce highway speed limits;
                Encourage public transport;
                Alternate private car access to roads in large cities on different days

                ... and a contemporary one:
                Work from home.

                Just a moment...

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                (www.iea.org)

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                @CelloMomOnCars and our Dutch government says: no need to worry, just go on living... 😱

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                • evelinesulman@akademienl.socialE evelinesulman@akademienl.social

                  @CelloMomOnCars and our Dutch government says: no need to worry, just go on living... 😱

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                  @EvelineSulman

                  Much depends on how long the war lasts.
                  This article says the Cabinet will start talking with parliament about possible policies.

                  https://eenvandaag.avrotros.nl/artikelen/energieprijzen-mogelijk-nog-jaren-hoger-door-oorlog-in-midden-oosten-zo-kunnen-we-zuiniger-omgaan-met-energie-163090

                  Meanwhile, fossil fuel is at €2.50 / liter so that is its own nudge. Suddenly your public transit card starts to look really nice. (American friends, that's nearly $ 10 a gallon)

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                  • cellomomoncars@mastodon.socialC cellomomoncars@mastodon.social

                    The International Energy Agency reminding governments of demand-related policy measures, same as the ones used during the 1970s oil crisis.

                    Reduce highway speed limits;
                    Encourage public transport;
                    Alternate private car access to roads in large cities on different days

                    ... and a contemporary one:
                    Work from home.

                    Just a moment...

                    favicon

                    (www.iea.org)

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                    UK:

                    "The guidance published on Tuesday means that from 2028, no new homes will be on the gas network - and will instead be on a heat network or get a heat pump - and they must have solar panels on their roofs covering an area equivalent to 40% of the ground floor space.

                    It also said plug-in panels that homeowners can self-install on balconies would be available in supermarkets in the coming months."

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                    Solar panels that can be plugged in at home could be available to buy in supermarkets in the coming months.

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                      UK:

                      "The guidance published on Tuesday means that from 2028, no new homes will be on the gas network - and will instead be on a heat network or get a heat pump - and they must have solar panels on their roofs covering an area equivalent to 40% of the ground floor space.

                      It also said plug-in panels that homeowners can self-install on balconies would be available in supermarkets in the coming months."

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                      Heat pumps for all new homes and plug-in solar in green tech drive

                      Solar panels that can be plugged in at home could be available to buy in supermarkets in the coming months.

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                      @CelloMomOnCars There's a bit of backstory on the plug in solar though. An initial report on safety has been done but when Milliband announced this all the professional bodies were going "wtf". The standards bodies are very much "hold on we've not do the regulations yet" and the electricians trade bodies are already behaving as one might expect 😎

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                        UK:

                        "The guidance published on Tuesday means that from 2028, no new homes will be on the gas network - and will instead be on a heat network or get a heat pump - and they must have solar panels on their roofs covering an area equivalent to 40% of the ground floor space.

                        It also said plug-in panels that homeowners can self-install on balconies would be available in supermarkets in the coming months."

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                        Heat pumps for all new homes and plug-in solar in green tech drive

                        Solar panels that can be plugged in at home could be available to buy in supermarkets in the coming months.

                        favicon

                        (www.bbc.com)

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                        "Countries that invested in renewable energy in 2022 are better able to withstand the current fuel crisis, experts say.

                        In 2022, some European governments tried to cut dependence on fossil fuels. But many soon focused on finding new fossil fuel suppliers instead.

                        Europe’s excess spending on fossil fuels since the Russia-Ukraine War amounted to about 40 per cent of the investment needed to transition its power system to clean energy, according to a 2023 study."

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                        ‘Europe learned the wrong lesson’ on energy from Russia-Ukraine war

                        Countries that invested in renewable energy in 2022 are better able to withstand the current fuel crisis, experts say.

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                          "Countries that invested in renewable energy in 2022 are better able to withstand the current fuel crisis, experts say.

                          In 2022, some European governments tried to cut dependence on fossil fuels. But many soon focused on finding new fossil fuel suppliers instead.

                          Europe’s excess spending on fossil fuels since the Russia-Ukraine War amounted to about 40 per cent of the investment needed to transition its power system to clean energy, according to a 2023 study."

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                          ‘Europe learned the wrong lesson’ on energy from Russia-Ukraine war

                          Countries that invested in renewable energy in 2022 are better able to withstand the current fuel crisis, experts say.

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                          "The rule-of-thumb that what is bad for fossils is good for renewables applies. And the Middle East conflict is definitely bad for oil and gas. It has once again exposed, dramatically, the vulnerability of many countries to oil and gas dependency.

                          While the present fossil supply shock disproportionately affects Asia, all energy importing countries will suffer, and their motivation to make themselves less dependent on oil and gas imports will rise. "

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                          The likely effects of the Iran war on the global energy transition

                          This note presents initial thinking from DNV’s Energy Transition research team on the implications of the war in Iran on the global energy system and the energy transition.

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                            "The rule-of-thumb that what is bad for fossils is good for renewables applies. And the Middle East conflict is definitely bad for oil and gas. It has once again exposed, dramatically, the vulnerability of many countries to oil and gas dependency.

                            While the present fossil supply shock disproportionately affects Asia, all energy importing countries will suffer, and their motivation to make themselves less dependent on oil and gas imports will rise. "

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                            The likely effects of the Iran war on the global energy transition

                            This note presents initial thinking from DNV’s Energy Transition research team on the implications of the war in Iran on the global energy system and the energy transition.

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                            "On Tuesday, the Philippines became the first country to declare a state of national energy emergency. South Koreans have been advised to take shorter showers and charge their phones during the day to conserve electricity. Japan begins its biggest-ever release of emergency oil reserves this week.

                            Thai farmer Theerasin told CNN that if the uncertainty over securing fuel continues, he would re-think planting his next crop in May."

                            https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/25/asia/asia-hormuz-energy-austerity-fuel-intl-hnk

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                              "On Tuesday, the Philippines became the first country to declare a state of national energy emergency. South Koreans have been advised to take shorter showers and charge their phones during the day to conserve electricity. Japan begins its biggest-ever release of emergency oil reserves this week.

                              Thai farmer Theerasin told CNN that if the uncertainty over securing fuel continues, he would re-think planting his next crop in May."

                              https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/25/asia/asia-hormuz-energy-austerity-fuel-intl-hnk

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                              "France's Finance Minister Roland Lescure revealed on Wednesday that between 30 and 40 per cent of Gulf refining capacity has been damaged or destroyed by Iran's retaliatory strikes, leaving a shortage of 11 million barrels a day on global oil markets. Lescure warned it could take up to three years to restore damaged facilities, and several months to restart those that were urgently shut down."

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                              France's Finance Minister Roland Lescure revealed on Wednesday that between 30 and 40 per cent of Gulf refining capacity has been damaged or destroyed by Iran's retaliatory strikes, leaving a shortage…

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                                "France's Finance Minister Roland Lescure revealed on Wednesday that between 30 and 40 per cent of Gulf refining capacity has been damaged or destroyed by Iran's retaliatory strikes, leaving a shortage of 11 million barrels a day on global oil markets. Lescure warned it could take up to three years to restore damaged facilities, and several months to restart those that were urgently shut down."

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                                Business - France confirms oil crisis, says 30-40 percent of Gulf energy infrastructure destroyed

                                France's Finance Minister Roland Lescure revealed on Wednesday that between 30 and 40 per cent of Gulf refining capacity has been damaged or destroyed by Iran's retaliatory strikes, leaving a shortage…

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                                "Studies suggest that most Southeast Asian countries have enough reserves of oil and LNG to last only 20 to 50 days.

                                In the wake of recent events, regional leaders are rethinking their attitude toward renewables. Indonesia’s government—not known for moving quickly—is making concerted efforts to speed up solar and geothermal power projects. Construction of new solar and geothermal power plants is slated to begin later this month."

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                                The Iran War Is Reshaping Asia’s Energy Security Strategies | Council on Foreign Relations

                                The impact of the oil and LNG shock has been pronounced in Asia, where many leading economies produce limited amounts of nuclear energy and depend heavily on imported fossil fuels from the Middle East.

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                                  "Studies suggest that most Southeast Asian countries have enough reserves of oil and LNG to last only 20 to 50 days.

                                  In the wake of recent events, regional leaders are rethinking their attitude toward renewables. Indonesia’s government—not known for moving quickly—is making concerted efforts to speed up solar and geothermal power projects. Construction of new solar and geothermal power plants is slated to begin later this month."

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                                  The Iran War Is Reshaping Asia’s Energy Security Strategies | Council on Foreign Relations

                                  The impact of the oil and LNG shock has been pronounced in Asia, where many leading economies produce limited amounts of nuclear energy and depend heavily on imported fossil fuels from the Middle East.

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                                  @CelloMomOnCars Good. Fuck Foul Fuels. TIME TO SWITCH GEARS QUITE LITERALLY.

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                                    "Studies suggest that most Southeast Asian countries have enough reserves of oil and LNG to last only 20 to 50 days.

                                    In the wake of recent events, regional leaders are rethinking their attitude toward renewables. Indonesia’s government—not known for moving quickly—is making concerted efforts to speed up solar and geothermal power projects. Construction of new solar and geothermal power plants is slated to begin later this month."

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                                    The Iran War Is Reshaping Asia’s Energy Security Strategies | Council on Foreign Relations

                                    The impact of the oil and LNG shock has been pronounced in Asia, where many leading economies produce limited amounts of nuclear energy and depend heavily on imported fossil fuels from the Middle East.

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                                    Australia:

                                    "Public transport will be free in Victoria for a month, and in Tasmania until July, in an effort to encourage people to switch from driving and alleviate the surge in demand for fuel."

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                                    Would love to see the result of this unintended pilot for free public transit.

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                                      Australia:

                                      "Public transport will be free in Victoria for a month, and in Tasmania until July, in an effort to encourage people to switch from driving and alleviate the surge in demand for fuel."

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                                      Would love to see the result of this unintended pilot for free public transit.

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                                      @CelloMomOnCars

                                      It might be not as much as one may hope. Attempts in Germany showed that (almost) free public transport (@9€/Month) in 2022 did only reduce some 3-6% of car trips even in regions with very dense transit. much less in rural areas.

                                      So yes, there might be notable reduction, but not as much as they may hope.

                                      A more interesting result was that over all trips increased way more than just moving those 3-6% from car to busses, trams and trains. People got more mobile, accessing more destinations resulting in notable additional business.

                                      So maybe public transport is a possible the next step to not only decrease CO2 but increase over all economy?

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                                        @CelloMomOnCars

                                        It might be not as much as one may hope. Attempts in Germany showed that (almost) free public transport (@9€/Month) in 2022 did only reduce some 3-6% of car trips even in regions with very dense transit. much less in rural areas.

                                        So yes, there might be notable reduction, but not as much as they may hope.

                                        A more interesting result was that over all trips increased way more than just moving those 3-6% from car to busses, trams and trains. People got more mobile, accessing more destinations resulting in notable additional business.

                                        So maybe public transport is a possible the next step to not only decrease CO2 but increase over all economy?

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                                        @Raffzahn

                                        Interesting!

                                        This bears out many studies that say that when people walk places (as you do when you get off the train), you tend to start enjoying yourself, look around more carefully, maybe see something you want to buy, sit down for coffee after a while, all that. Actually the worst for local businesses is people who blow by in their steel boxes on wheels oblivious of what you have to offer.

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                                          @Raffzahn

                                          Interesting!

                                          This bears out many studies that say that when people walk places (as you do when you get off the train), you tend to start enjoying yourself, look around more carefully, maybe see something you want to buy, sit down for coffee after a while, all that. Actually the worst for local businesses is people who blow by in their steel boxes on wheels oblivious of what you have to offer.

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                                          @Raffzahn

                                          On reduction:
                                          There's price, and there's carbon emissions.

                                          Oil products have a relatively inelastic demand: People in rural areas still must use their car, trucks must deliver the goods, etc. In such a situation even a small reduction of consumption is enough to bring prices down significantly, even though carbon emissions are not cut by much.

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