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  • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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    RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

    This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

    akamran@indieweb.socialA alfabravoteam@linuxrocks.onlineA bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN 5 Replies Last reply
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    • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

      RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

      This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

      akamran@indieweb.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @MidniteMikeWrites state attorneys general (like Tish James in NY) are doing this 👍🏽

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      • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

        RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

        This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

        alfabravoteam@linuxrocks.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @MidniteMikeWrites they are part of the corporate push, they just rely on hypocrisy and dark negotiation instead of blunt fascism.

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        • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

          RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

          This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

          bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @MidniteMikeWrites

          US politics make a lot more sense once you realize it is a one-party system cosplaying as a two-party system...

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          • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

            @MidniteMikeWrites

            US politics make a lot more sense once you realize it is a one-party system cosplaying as a two-party system...

            uncleslacky@federate.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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            @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites

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            • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

              RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

              This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

              dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @MidniteMikeWrites they're not the opposition. They're a bloc that targets a different demographic to maintain the same power structure.

              The only difference now is how crass and anti-democratic the establishment is acting. The underlying economic policies are the same regardless of which one has gained the most votes.

              The average voter goes with whichever party has a social message that resonates with them, because the economic policy is only different based on where you're standing.

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              • bsdphk@fosstodon.orgB bsdphk@fosstodon.org

                @MidniteMikeWrites

                US politics make a lot more sense once you realize it is a one-party system cosplaying as a two-party system...

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                @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites it really does. Domestic social policy is the only thing that differentiates them, and that's just a shell game to keep the voters pleasantly disengaged. The economic and foreign policy is the same.

                It just so happens that policy is currently being championed by a sugar-crazed toddler with a soiled diaper, but it's still the same policy.

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                • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                  @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites it really does. Domestic social policy is the only thing that differentiates them, and that's just a shell game to keep the voters pleasantly disengaged. The economic and foreign policy is the same.

                  It just so happens that policy is currently being championed by a sugar-crazed toddler with a soiled diaper, but it's still the same policy.

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                  @dresstokilt @bsdphk @dresstokilt @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites

                  Not trying to defend Dems. But there are material differences between parties, though mostly as a result of Repbs moving further right. To their credit, though, Dems broke Washington Concensus post-2016. Pursued industrial policy and antitrust against wishes of rich donors. Shouldn’t have taken 40 years, but is surprising considering the complete disregard prior to Biden.

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                  • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                    @dresstokilt @bsdphk @dresstokilt @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites

                    Not trying to defend Dems. But there are material differences between parties, though mostly as a result of Repbs moving further right. To their credit, though, Dems broke Washington Concensus post-2016. Pursued industrial policy and antitrust against wishes of rich donors. Shouldn’t have taken 40 years, but is surprising considering the complete disregard prior to Biden.

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                    @dresstokilt @bsdphk On foreign policy, again, not going to defend American empire, but I don’t think waton cuts of USAID or explicit military threats against Greenland would be happening under Dems. I could see other forigen policy differences under Dems too, if their base shamed them enough, but those are speculative.

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                    • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                      @dresstokilt @bsdphk On foreign policy, again, not going to defend American empire, but I don’t think waton cuts of USAID or explicit military threats against Greenland would be happening under Dems. I could see other forigen policy differences under Dems too, if their base shamed them enough, but those are speculative.

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                      @dresstokilt @bsdphk This isn’t to give credit to Dems. All I’m saying is if one party can be cajoled into not doing maximal harm that’s slightly better than letting the other party freely pursue maximal harm.

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                      • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                        @dresstokilt @bsdphk This isn’t to give credit to Dems. All I’m saying is if one party can be cajoled into not doing maximal harm that’s slightly better than letting the other party freely pursue maximal harm.

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                        @MidniteMikeWrites @bsdphk This is part of the playbook. The give and take so that it doesn't feel like all take and keeps the people mollified and thinking that the parties are fundamentally different from an economic standpoint. Biden's reforms were the pushback that didn't do anything to address the underlying strip-mining of wealth. Both parties have moved further right since 1980. The Greenland stuff is the aforementioned toddler. They both usually just want to BUY the world.

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                        • dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD dresstokilt@mastodon.social

                          @MidniteMikeWrites @bsdphk This is part of the playbook. The give and take so that it doesn't feel like all take and keeps the people mollified and thinking that the parties are fundamentally different from an economic standpoint. Biden's reforms were the pushback that didn't do anything to address the underlying strip-mining of wealth. Both parties have moved further right since 1980. The Greenland stuff is the aforementioned toddler. They both usually just want to BUY the world.

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                          @dresstokilt @bsdphk I don't think there's a playbook, but agree that Dems at a national level are functionally "controlled "opposition. But not in the sense that every move is hand-picked by the wealthy; incentives + norms make them a paralyzed party. We need reform and to get money out of politics.

                          In the meantime, Dems have been steered in productive ways when agitated. Khan's antitrust was not part of any plan; Biden lost donors over that. Was genuine response to the moment, but very late.

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                          • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                            @dresstokilt @bsdphk I don't think there's a playbook, but agree that Dems at a national level are functionally "controlled "opposition. But not in the sense that every move is hand-picked by the wealthy; incentives + norms make them a paralyzed party. We need reform and to get money out of politics.

                            In the meantime, Dems have been steered in productive ways when agitated. Khan's antitrust was not part of any plan; Biden lost donors over that. Was genuine response to the moment, but very late.

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                            @dresstokilt @bsdphk Not exciting, but we're at a stage where the purpose of voting is harm minimization. There are harms that wouldn't exist today, if Dems won 24. Doesn't mean they're a good party; doesn't mean voting will solve our problems. People should also support:

                            - Grassroots electoral and campaign reform

                            - Building infra for 3rd parties

                            - Engaging in local politics

                            - Plugging into mutual aid/other local networks

                            And more.. Voting doesn't have to come at the expense of this.

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                            • uncleslacky@federate.socialU uncleslacky@federate.social

                              @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites

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                              @uncleslacky @bsdphk @MidniteMikeWrites That is actually a 100% true
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                              • midnitemikewrites@zirk.usM midnitemikewrites@zirk.us

                                RE: https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic/116046419430463041

                                This is an excellent idea. Unfortunately I don’t think the Dems realize they’re the opposition party in an authoritarian regime. They are instead normalizing backsliding. Doesn’t mean that the public can’t do this!

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                                @MidniteMikeWrites
                                Are people aware of how they're being enslaved?

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