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The slow death of the power user.

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  • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

    @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven I think the discrepancy between someone who is proficient, mostly because it is their job, and power users is that the latter enjoy the challenge. In short, do you like to understand how things work - in addition to just learning a skill for money.

    The anemia of most hardware stores is probably a similar sign of the times as the omnipresence of stuffing things in "the cloud".

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    @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven There is an irony in this as the times have never been better to be "a maker", yet on the whole there seems to be a regression.

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    • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

      @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

      FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

      It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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      @OrionKidder Exactly, many end up being pancake mixed, or at least confused.

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      • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

        @OrionKidder Exactly, many end up being pancake mixed, or at least confused.

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        @koen_hufkens The verb "to pancake" could catch on, here.

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        • fast_code_r_us@floss.socialF fast_code_r_us@floss.social

          @koen_hufkens The same percentage of people explore this technology deeply enough to understand and control it. The rest treat it as a black box or appliance with 'magic' inside.

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          @fast_code_r_us There is the market penetration angle, but the lack of repairability is a part of this as well. When things are made intentionally difficult to understand, not because they are, but because it protects business interests, you lose out.

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          • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

            @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven There is an irony in this as the times have never been better to be "a maker", yet on the whole there seems to be a regression.

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            @koen_hufkens @DrHyde I suspect the ratio might be kind of the same as it always was. But certainly people who have curiosity and want to learn to do things with their fingers, can. YouTube videos on fly tying have ridiculous views. Especially considering that no one *needs* to tie a fly.

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            • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

              @fast_code_r_us There is the market penetration angle, but the lack of repairability is a part of this as well. When things are made intentionally difficult to understand, not because they are, but because it protects business interests, you lose out.

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              @koen_hufkens I agree; companies have gotten very clever and the current laws protect them instead of consumers.

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              • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                The slow death of the power user.

                "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                #technology #tech #sustainability

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                @koen_hufkens [1] Thank you for naming this so precisely. This resonates — but from a different angle. In your framing, technology companies are the agents, the user is the victim. In networked defence systems, the dynamic is the same but stakes are categorically higher. The agents are system architects and doctrine writers. The victim is the human controller — formally present in the loop, substantively blind to what the network produces and why.

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                • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                  The slow death of the power user.

                  "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                  #technology #tech #sustainability

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                  @koen_hufkens [2] I've been developing BIEI — the Battlefield Intelligent Emergence Index — measuring emergent intelligence in networked combat systems. The uncomfortable finding: as network intelligence grows, operator comprehension shrinks. This gap is not a bug. It is a structural consequence of emergence. BIEI doesn't reverse this. But it measures it. You cannot govern what you cannot measure.

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                  • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                    @koen_hufkens We can't all be "power users" in everything we use. I'm 100% OK with instant usability. If someone wants to just use a computer without knowing how it works that's no different from me wanting to just use clothes without knowing about weaving and stitching. Yes, that means that I'm dependent on Big Sewing. I'm OK with that. I don't want to be a self-sufficient peasant who can do everything he needs to survive but can't go to the opera.

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                    @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I agree but also I don't think this is in conflict with the premise presented here. You should be able to be either a casual software user *or* a power user, *and* you should be able to grow from the former into the latter if you desire.

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                    • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                      @koen_hufkens We can't all be "power users" in everything we use. I'm 100% OK with instant usability. If someone wants to just use a computer without knowing how it works that's no different from me wanting to just use clothes without knowing about weaving and stitching. Yes, that means that I'm dependent on Big Sewing. I'm OK with that. I don't want to be a self-sufficient peasant who can do everything he needs to survive but can't go to the opera.

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                      @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I would suggest there are two main differences in your example. First, you can probably wear clothes well without knowing much about them. You can even easily switch brands without knowing anything about weaving. This is not the case with, for instance, operating systems.

                      Second, even if you don't weave or dye, you can probably sew. Or at least have a friend who can sew well enough to repair your clothes. But most people don't have phones with changeable batteries.

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                      • distrowatch@mastodon.socialD distrowatch@mastodon.social

                        @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I would suggest there are two main differences in your example. First, you can probably wear clothes well without knowing much about them. You can even easily switch brands without knowing anything about weaving. This is not the case with, for instance, operating systems.

                        Second, even if you don't weave or dye, you can probably sew. Or at least have a friend who can sew well enough to repair your clothes. But most people don't have phones with changeable batteries.

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                        @distrowatch @DrHyde "But most people don't have phones with changeable batteries."

                        Anymore, that's a design choice. Not in the least inspired by wanting to sell more phones.

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                        • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                          The slow death of the power user.

                          "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                          #technology #tech #sustainability

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                          @koen_hufkens This hurts.

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                          • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                            The slow death of the power user.

                            "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                            @koen_hufkens I would disagree with the term 'power user' but I have tinkered when it comes to mobile phones and computers somewhat as switching from running pirated to Windows to GNU Linux Distros and rooting a Huawei to run custom ROM on it !

                            I switched to many FOSS alternatives over the years, and always had an issue when people just gave in to persistent ads on Youtube and other apps (while I had been using third party open source apps which disable those ads)

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                            • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                              @koen_hufkens I've had similar thoughts. I think companies, perhaps Apple especially, pushed walk-up usability, as opposed to things you learned first. "The Missing Manual" era.

                              But it's not completely on them. They tapped a demand. Most people don't want to learn things, especially first. Even if it might yield higher ease of use, later.

                              Luckily with #FOSS and #Linux we still have the option to learn things second. Even things as ridiculous and productive as vi (and descendants).

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                              @buckfiftyseven @koen_hufkens I think it's more about 'options' and sadly nowadays most of the tech companies are not interested in providing such options.

                              I remember noticing the 'rounded rectangle' in Corel Draw when no such feature was available on Adobe Illustrator somewhere around 2011 (or maybe it was the other way around) and when I later dabbled into other programs I learnt that most of them had some unique features (options)

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                              • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                The slow death of the power user.

                                "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                                The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                                #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                @koen_hufkens If you need a similar analogy outside of tech, look at cars.

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                                • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                  @distrowatch @DrHyde "But most people don't have phones with changeable batteries."

                                  Anymore, that's a design choice. Not in the least inspired by wanting to sell more phones.

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                                  @koen_hufkens @DrHyde Exactly, people have largely come to accept that they can't swap batteries on a phone. People would be outraged if they were told they couldn't alter their clothing or change a tyre on their car.

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                                  • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                    The slow death of the power user.

                                    "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                                    #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                    @koen_hufkens that quote from the article affords far too much perspective to big tech companies... and if you look at what's happened in the free software world of GNOME UIs and things like that, it's clear it's more a (misguided) attempt to simplify things for the "benefit" of the user

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                                      The slow death of the power user.

                                      "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

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                                      #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                      @koen_hufkens As a teacher my students had absolutely no understanding of files. At one point we wanted them to put documents they made for a class in that class' folder. They couldn't understand why they would ever want to do that.

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                                      • distrowatch@mastodon.socialD distrowatch@mastodon.social

                                        @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I would suggest there are two main differences in your example. First, you can probably wear clothes well without knowing much about them. You can even easily switch brands without knowing anything about weaving. This is not the case with, for instance, operating systems.

                                        Second, even if you don't weave or dye, you can probably sew. Or at least have a friend who can sew well enough to repair your clothes. But most people don't have phones with changeable batteries.

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                                        @distrowatch @koen_hufkens "analogy isn't perfect" shock!

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                                        • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                          The slow death of the power user.

                                          "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                                          The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                                          #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                          @koen_hufkens Definitely really well put. I've personally noticed this with websites and working with them, as they are so large for no particular reason. Abstractions built upon abstractions of frameworks, to the point where using the vanilla JavaScript APIs may as well be a cardinal sin.

                                          And to top it all off, it isn't even necessary for JavaScript to be as present for most sites. News sites with all their advertising partners seem to be the most egregious example of this, with some sites having several MB of just pure JavaScript.

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