History will remember what they achieved here.
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@itsfoss what did they achieve?
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@itsfoss I'm using Ubuntu, do I have to verify my age on the next update? I don't think so, but we will see it.
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@itsfoss arachne browser will be relevant again
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@itsfoss MidnightBSD was one of the first to introduce age delcaration code. And Ageless is just Debian with the name changed. Might be a bit out of line to say they are doing anything against age verification.
Meanwhile System76 has actively pushed back against age verification laws and may have an exemption lined up in Colorado and is nowhere in this image.
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@itsfoss ageless linux is a script not a distro
edit: there is going to be an ageless linux distro but its not out yet
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I'm moving to Artix!
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@itsfoss ยฟFreeDOS "age verification"?
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@itsfoss even when using a distro like debian can't you you just use a hard coded 99 yo? i dont see much of a problem with that.
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@itsfoss let's hope mint and fedora join the party
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@itsfoss MidnightBSD was one of the first to introduce age delcaration code. And Ageless is just Debian with the name changed. Might be a bit out of line to say they are doing anything against age verification.
Meanwhile System76 has actively pushed back against age verification laws and may have an exemption lined up in Colorado and is nowhere in this image.
The ageless project is a bit more ambitious then that, they're planning on handing out non compliant sbc devices to kids in California to force a test case on 1st amendment grounds. The distro may not be anything special, nevertheless the project is doing a heck of a lot more than most. Garuda, for instance won't patch the age verification fields out of systemd or move to liberated systemd and haven't committed to doing either down the road if systemd starts requiring the age fields be filled. They just said they won't build their own age verification system, unless the laws change where their developers live, but if that happened, then they absolutely would. That's not standing up to anything at all.
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Your post is very misleading.
E.g., Garuda Linux has stated on March 9th they ยปwill continue to comply with local regulations in Finland and Germany (where the servers are hosted and the donation funds are held)ยซ, so their "resistance" is strictly limited to Californian law, not to OS-level age verification, per se.
MidnighBSD has already announced on March 9th ยปWe've implemented about 1/3 of the california/colorado/illinois law.ยซ
Please verify your statements, and retract this post.
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@itsfoss *waves from Guix*
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@itsfoss let's hope mint and fedora join the party
@GlitchGhost @itsfoss Mint is built on systemd and systemd is charging full steam ahead on complying in advance. Mint has experimented with rebasing on Debian to escape Canonical's clutches, but they haven't even tried getting rid of systemd at all yet as far as I know.
Honestly that's the biggest problem. Most Linux systems rely on something that was already fundamentally way out of scope and that thing itself has decided to do this...
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@itsfoss I'm still completely in shock that one person in systemd has decided arbitrarily to do this, is just pushing PRs through all over the place, and pretty much only has Claude to decide whether or not to approve them. Any opposition gets silenced with the threads just being closed because they're too inconvenient to moderate even though this is a really really big decision that affects... practically everything Linux...
Honestly, systemd was already way out of scope. It's pretty much universally hated and it keeps taking it upon itself to do various things it shouldn't (like adding DNS handling for some reason. Why does something whose only purpose is to handle init and service starting/stopping running its own DNS handling?)
Time for systemd to go.
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@itsfoss wrong approach, malicious compliance is the way to go when the governments enact stupid legislations. Now a law can be passed on top to make anyone using a non compliant OS a criminal, are these orgs going to help out any of their users who get caught out?.
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