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  • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

    @JorisBohnsonPM ...when all I have done since the moment he announced his candidacy is resist -- in every way I'm capable of -- both his internal idiocy as well as his burgeoning Idiocracy.

    I repeat: we are exhausted and despairing over here, and lumping us together with MAGAts and with Trump's billionaire sycophants is what I call punching down.

    3/3

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    @courtcan you guys are doing a great, great job at it given your circumstances and how much you have to do to just survive as it is.

    Keep going!

    I wish there was something we could do from outside the US.

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    • idoodle@mastodon.socialI idoodle@mastodon.social

      @courtcan
      Oye, words are meaningless. Action is needed, and your country is full of spineless cowards.
      End America now!

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      @IDoodle What plan would you like for us to follow? Please elucidate.

      Court Cantrell won't conform (@courtcan@mastodon.social)

      @JorisBohnsonPM I am well aware of all of that. I am just asking the rest of the world to acknowledge that a great many of us *did* vote for the other candidates and we *have been* fighting Trump's regime every way we can think of. We're marching in protests, we're hounding our representatives, we're having the difficult conversations with family members & friends, we're teaching our children to stand firm against fascism no matter what, we're still voting even though it feels pointless.... 1/

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      • hypostase@bsd.networkH hypostase@bsd.network

        @courtcan
        From the outside it just looks so easy to fix, from the inside it's a bit more complicated.

        I'm neither citizen nor resident, but I've also known citizens who've been fighting against the authoritarianism all millennium.

        But even as an outsider I can know I've been talking about the inevitability of this disaster for a long time, but I can't know if I was really correct, or just got lucky that reality aligned with my views, and that makes it even harder to bring others aboard.

        It sucks, but the suffering of the last 12 months may well have been what it takes for people, ordinary people, both inside and outside the US to be able to get to grips with what we need to do to create effective change.

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        @hypostase we can't even fix our gun problem despite hundreds of mass shootings @courtcan

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        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

          ....An uncounted but large number of us have been fighting this as hard as we know how for more than 10 years. We are scared, exhausted, and despairing, and there aren't enough words for us to say how deeply sorry we are that our government is menacing the whole world.

          2/2

          #AmericanPerspective
          #WarIsHell
          #25thAmmendmentNOW

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          @courtcan
          I'm with you 100%!

          But I think we can also agree that not *enough* Americans are paying attention, and far too many are cheering on Armageddon, especially in the Bible Belt, expecting Jesus to return.

          I called my deep-red USrep today and the staffer said, "But it worked!" So I retorted that the Bible condemns doing evil so that good may come (because I know that shit).

          I'm happy to share ideas on resistance in deep-red US states!

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          • drangnon@hachyderm.ioD drangnon@hachyderm.io

            @hypostase we can't even fix our gun problem despite hundreds of mass shootings @courtcan

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            @draNgNon
            I'd've said you were about 20 years away on that, now that you've got politicians who were shot at as kids.

            But, maybe with things like tje Minnesotan demonstration of community in action, there's an chance to shorten that timeline as you clean up the other problems.

            @courtcan

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            • mahadevank@mastodon.socialM mahadevank@mastodon.social

              @courtcan you guys are doing a great, great job at it given your circumstances and how much you have to do to just survive as it is.

              Keep going!

              I wish there was something we could do from outside the US.

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              @mahadevank @courtcan
              One thing I would ask people outside the US to do is persuade their governments to stop normalizing Trump, flattering him, rewarding him, allying with him. Yes, the US was once a loyal ally, but those days are over. Yes, Trump is easily manipulable, but also very dangerous, and the more thoroughly the rest of the world calls out the US government's abominations, the sooner this nightmare will end.

              There is strength in solidarity, for a brighter future!

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @courtcan

                with the caveat that if, as an american, you do not vote, because you value punishing the democrats for being spineless (and they are), over preventing {gestures broadly}, you are a piece of shit

                you want better than the milquetoast bullshit the democrats offer

                i do too

                but we are only going to get there by showing up, especially in the primaries, and iterating to better over time

                "i want perfect now or i'm not participating!" is not a moral position

                it's being an immature child

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                Indeed! I said this elsewhere but this, again, is why I vote, even as an anarchist leaning person https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/the-ballot-is-a-doorstop-not-a-love-letter/ @benroyce @courtcan

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                • tawtovo@mastodon.socialT tawtovo@mastodon.social

                  @courtcan
                  I'm with you 100%!

                  But I think we can also agree that not *enough* Americans are paying attention, and far too many are cheering on Armageddon, especially in the Bible Belt, expecting Jesus to return.

                  I called my deep-red USrep today and the staffer said, "But it worked!" So I retorted that the Bible condemns doing evil so that good may come (because I know that shit).

                  I'm happy to share ideas on resistance in deep-red US states!

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                  @tawtovo @courtcan

                  I have a cranky ass message for end days people:

                  The rapture already happened and you are stuck here with the rest of us to fight and die in the last battle between good and evil. Sorry sunshine you didn’t make the grade.

                  My attitude is that the concept of finding religious fulfillment in global genocide is a moral test. People who are horrified at the idea which is not biblical mind you pass the test.

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                  • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                    @JorisBohnsonPM ...when all I have done since the moment he announced his candidacy is resist -- in every way I'm capable of -- both his internal idiocy as well as his burgeoning Idiocracy.

                    I repeat: we are exhausted and despairing over here, and lumping us together with MAGAts and with Trump's billionaire sycophants is what I call punching down.

                    3/3

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                    @courtcan

                    Keep fighting, protesting & voting
                    ✌️

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                    • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                      ....An uncounted but large number of us have been fighting this as hard as we know how for more than 10 years. We are scared, exhausted, and despairing, and there aren't enough words for us to say how deeply sorry we are that our government is menacing the whole world.

                      2/2

                      #AmericanPerspective
                      #WarIsHell
                      #25thAmmendmentNOW

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                      @courtcan Was out protesting yesterday.

                      They'll probably keep thinking they're better than us right up to the point they're suddenly realizing they're surrounded by enemies who support the shit we're doing.

                      Just like happened to me.

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                      • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                        @JorisBohnsonPM I am well aware of all of that. I am just asking the rest of the world to acknowledge that a great many of us *did* vote for the other candidates and we *have been* fighting Trump's regime every way we can think of. We're marching in protests, we're hounding our representatives, we're having the difficult conversations with family members & friends, we're teaching our children to stand firm against fascism no matter what, we're still voting even though it feels pointless....

                        1/

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                        @courtcan @JorisBohnsonPM
                        As a German, I am used to being called a Nazi abroad, despite the fact that my mother was born ten years after the end of WW2.
                        Hitler was not elected by a majority of Germans. He became chancellor through backroom deals and the support of conservative elites, even though the Nazi Party never won an outright majority on its own. There was resistance but the regime’s repressive structures, Gestapo surveillance, terror, and lack of unified opposition, made it increasingly difficult over time.
                        I hope you can turn this around and recover your reputation.

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                        • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                          ....An uncounted but large number of us have been fighting this as hard as we know how for more than 10 years. We are scared, exhausted, and despairing, and there aren't enough words for us to say how deeply sorry we are that our government is menacing the whole world.

                          2/2

                          #AmericanPerspective
                          #WarIsHell
                          #25thAmmendmentNOW

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                          @courtcan But a surprising (to me, although I suppose I shouldn't be) number of Americans support "virtuous violence". In research years before this war, a similar scenario was presented to several groups. Over half — fifty-six percent — would order a nuclear air strike killing one hundred thousand Iranians. Forty-eight percent would order the strike, even if they knew that two million Iranians would die. https://medium.com/lawyers-guns-and-money/will-americans-nuke-iran-975ccedac423

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @courtcan

                            with the caveat that if, as an american, you do not vote, because you value punishing the democrats for being spineless (and they are), over preventing {gestures broadly}, you are a piece of shit

                            you want better than the milquetoast bullshit the democrats offer

                            i do too

                            but we are only going to get there by showing up, especially in the primaries, and iterating to better over time

                            "i want perfect now or i'm not participating!" is not a moral position

                            it's being an immature child

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                            @benroyce @courtcan Republicans could remove Trump but are afraid to. They are the spineless ones.

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                              @benroyce @courtcan Republicans could remove Trump but are afraid to. They are the spineless ones.

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                              @Oldfartrant @courtcan

                              Indeed. Centrist Republicans are spineless. Centrist Democrats are spineless. Meanwhile MAGA is turbocharged and the American left is despondent and dissipated. Some of this is due to plutocracy: they pump money into MAGA and they control traditional media and social media. One response to this is cynicial defeatism. But I say the left should take over the Democrats. Job #1 for that is shut down these pathetic voices on the left that are useless whiny entitled cynics

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                              • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                @JorisBohnsonPM ...when all I have done since the moment he announced his candidacy is resist -- in every way I'm capable of -- both his internal idiocy as well as his burgeoning Idiocracy.

                                I repeat: we are exhausted and despairing over here, and lumping us together with MAGAts and with Trump's billionaire sycophants is what I call punching down.

                                3/3

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                                @courtcan

                                Oh, when you’ve won - don’t forget to bring that corrupt & murderous lot to justice

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                                • courtcan@mastodon.socialC courtcan@mastodon.social

                                  The following is mostly a reply I gave in someone else's thread. I wanted to share it without risking the other threadfolk getting backlash.

                                  Concerning whether or not US-Americans know and/or care that yesterday could easily have been the start of WWIII/a global nuclear event:

                                  A lot of us care and are aware. Enough that we were checking the news every few mins yesterday & dreading the approach of 8pm EST.

                                  Please don't paint all US-Americans with the same brush of dismissive judgment....

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                                  @courtcan Sorry, but the rest of the world believes, probably correctly, that most Americans are happy their country thinks it can grab the rest of the world by the pussy. Until you guys get rid of Orange Hitler and make some serious, serious reforms and discover some national humility and politeness, we don't buy this not-all-of-us-ness.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @Oldfartrant @courtcan

                                    Indeed. Centrist Republicans are spineless. Centrist Democrats are spineless. Meanwhile MAGA is turbocharged and the American left is despondent and dissipated. Some of this is due to plutocracy: they pump money into MAGA and they control traditional media and social media. One response to this is cynicial defeatism. But I say the left should take over the Democrats. Job #1 for that is shut down these pathetic voices on the left that are useless whiny entitled cynics

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                                    @benroyce @Oldfartrant @courtcan only my party the #Greens are winning. The price of oil will be excessive until *at least* 2028. And that means, more solar and wind adoption. Less shipping and more local economic development! Weird, we didn't even get elected and the #uniparty $#!+ all over itself and gave us a victory ✌️. Have I said how much I love our #EV which is $10 to fully charge when using our house?

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                                    • stalbaum@mastodon.socialS stalbaum@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce @Oldfartrant @courtcan only my party the #Greens are winning. The price of oil will be excessive until *at least* 2028. And that means, more solar and wind adoption. Less shipping and more local economic development! Weird, we didn't even get elected and the #uniparty $#!+ all over itself and gave us a victory ✌️. Have I said how much I love our #EV which is $10 to fully charge when using our house?

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                                      @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

                                      no

                                      i want 3rd parties but to get 3rd parties we need ranked choice voting

                                      rcv is creeping in, but until then we have to focus on taking over the democrats

                                      in an FPTP voting system, we only have a choice between 2 parties

                                      it's not corruption, it's just math

                                      the left splintering into different parties is as fatal for us as leftists not voting

                                      "you want us to support spineless democrats!"

                                      no, i want us to show up in the fucking primaries and replace them

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

                                        no

                                        i want 3rd parties but to get 3rd parties we need ranked choice voting

                                        rcv is creeping in, but until then we have to focus on taking over the democrats

                                        in an FPTP voting system, we only have a choice between 2 parties

                                        it's not corruption, it's just math

                                        the left splintering into different parties is as fatal for us as leftists not voting

                                        "you want us to support spineless democrats!"

                                        no, i want us to show up in the fucking primaries and replace them

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                                        @benroyce @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan
                                        I think the easiest way to explain it is, remember Ross Perot? That’s how the right wing lost to Bill Clinton, the independent difference was split. Then remember The Tea Party and MAGA? That’s how the right wing took over the GOP, they replaced all the individual candidates with their own in the primaries, and stuck with a 50 state, up and down the ticket strategy. Even school boards. Behind the scenes, billionaires funded and organized the whole thing.

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                                        • suzannealdrich@hachyderm.ioS suzannealdrich@hachyderm.io

                                          @benroyce @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan
                                          I think the easiest way to explain it is, remember Ross Perot? That’s how the right wing lost to Bill Clinton, the independent difference was split. Then remember The Tea Party and MAGA? That’s how the right wing took over the GOP, they replaced all the individual candidates with their own in the primaries, and stuck with a 50 state, up and down the ticket strategy. Even school boards. Behind the scenes, billionaires funded and organized the whole thing.

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                                          @suzannealdrich @stalbaum @Oldfartrant @courtcan

                                          we can also remember ralph nader, who did not hand bushii a win in florida, but nader voters in florida did hand the results for florida to the supreme court, which pulled a nasty trick and voila: the stupid iraq war

                                          the case with hillary in 2016 is less clear, but certainly green voters who went for a pro putin troll who just shows up every 4 years to divide the left vote is also a case of people who mean well, but don't understand FPTP

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