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It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece.

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  • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

    It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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    @overholt @20002ist The amount of tech—well, let's just call it naïveté, though I have stronger words in mind—in that article is breath-taking. For example, the author thinks that it's a significant coincidence that his suspect coded in C++, and was interested in public key cryptography for distributed systems. Well, yeah. It was also supposedly non-obvious that a distributed file-sharing network like Gnutella was more resistant to take-down than one like Napster which relied on a central site. Funny, almost contemporaneously with that posting to the Cypherpunks list—a list I was on, too—I gave a talk at the Department of Justice on those two programs, where I made that exact point (slide 24 of https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/talks/NapsterGnutella.pdf). (Aside: I gave the same talk to a conference of tech Asst. US Attorneys and confused some people in the audience because (slide 5) I used the word "neighbor" to refer to an adjacent node on the graph…)
    And no, I'm not Satoshi, the two most obvious reasons being a) I'm not an anarchist libertarian who thinks that strong cryptography will make governments vanish (why would it, and why would that be a good thing?), and b) I am an academic who would have published that paper under my own name (slide 6 of https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/classes/s23/l_blockchain.pdf).

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    • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

      It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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      @overholt If you did this cryptic stuff, then maybe you are Satoshi Nakamoto

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      • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

        It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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        @overholt tell us about the old ways, Dyl.

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        • satsuma@dice.campS satsuma@dice.camp

          @overholt when they say “old typewriter font” they mean plain text, right? Email as nature intended.

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          @satsuma @overholt Yeah, sounds like they actually believe there was font information in the message; like you couldn't *change* the font to whatever you felt like, monospaced or otherwise.

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          • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

            It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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            @overholt “in old typewriter font”? the thing is, i highly doubt whomever wrote this ever used a typewriter.

            such a weird sentence to describe a choice of plaintext font that wasn’t standard at all. the monospace is declared but what’s rendered is whichever font you have designated for monospace.

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            • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

              @overholt “in old typewriter font”? the thing is, i highly doubt whomever wrote this ever used a typewriter.

              such a weird sentence to describe a choice of plaintext font that wasn’t standard at all. the monospace is declared but what’s rendered is whichever font you have designated for monospace.

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              @blogdiva Wikipedia says he graduated college a year after I did, so I would expect him to have some experience of typewriters--I took a typing class in high school, but we produced our school newspaper on fancy new Macs.

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              • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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                @overholt It wasn't even necessary to reply-all, of course, and some forms of etiquette called for not doing that, since you could just reply to the list and the list would distribute to all the members...

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                • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                  It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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                  @overholt @VCP but…but…but mailing lists still exist!! And are commonly used!

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                  • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                    @overholt “in old typewriter font”? the thing is, i highly doubt whomever wrote this ever used a typewriter.

                    such a weird sentence to describe a choice of plaintext font that wasn’t standard at all. the monospace is declared but what’s rendered is whichever font you have designated for monospace.

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                    @blogdiva @overholt A lot of people used courier in newsreaders which was originally developed for typewriters in the 50s. https://www.historyofinformation.com/detail.php?id=2059 But I don’t recall seeing it when using mailing lists, my earliest memory of those was on an Apple computer with a bitmap font, probably Monaco.

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                    • jimfl@hachyderm.ioJ jimfl@hachyderm.io

                      @overholt If you did this cryptic stuff, then maybe you are Satoshi Nakamoto

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                      @jimfl that was my first thought, Adam Back (Bitcoin famous) was one of them in the 90's 🤔

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                      • overholt@glammr.usO overholt@glammr.us

                        It is remarkable to see something like this explained as though it was the technique for casting bronze in Ancient Greece. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-identity-adam-back.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZlA.OETP.MPLF9R5oa0F1&smid=url-share

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                        @overholt 1995 was in fact six thousand years ago

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                          @overholt 1995 was in fact six thousand years ago

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                          @Viss @overholt Certainly it feels that way

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