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  3. This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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  • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

    @david_chisnall @scalzi

    The Star Wars novel was written by Alan Dean Foster.

    Pointing this out because Alan Dean Foster is a fine writer and worth looking into.

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    @billiglarper @scalzi

    Huh, not mentioned on the cover at all, but not surprising in hindsight, it reads a lot like him.

    I've read a bunch of his other things, but this was my one example of good writing by George Lucas, so now I'm just disappointed in him.

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    • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

      @billiglarper @david_chisnall @scalzi I really enjoyed the first few Spellsinger books. Need to finish the series one of these days.

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      @jzb @billiglarper @scalzi

      I read his novelisations of the Star Trek animated series and didn't realise they were based on those, so had weird deja vu when I eventually saw the series!

      I really enjoyed a bunch of his humanx novels and some other random ones. Most of the things of his I've read were novelisations, and most before seeing the thing they were adapted from. And, of those, the source material almost always proved disappointing when I did see it.

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      • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

        This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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        @scalzi I’m afraid I’m old enough to have seen Star Wars when it debuted… and the fact that it was labelled as Episode IV was always in my mind… so it was Star Wars (A New Hope) for me.

        (Of course, it was not Star Wars here; it was “La Guerra de las Galaxias”, which is even more powerful 😉)

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        • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

          This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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          @scalzi
          With all due respect I'm as old as many here and clearly remember: from day one in the 70's our brains boggled that it was episode 4. We immediately craved prequels from the start, for decades (which we got even if a bit disappointing). And the first thing you read right after the horns sing the intro fanfare is the title of the chapter. A new hope.

          These are not the controversies you are looking for.

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          • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

            This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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            @scalzi you sound like a “Voiceover Bladerunner” kinda guy 🧐

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            • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

              This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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              @scalzi correct

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              • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                @scalzi Sure Grandpa, and I suppose Han shot first.

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                • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                  This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                  @scalzi my grandad says the same. He never watched episode 4 a new hope.

                  Just star wars

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                  • trimtab@mastodon.socialT trimtab@mastodon.social

                    @scalzi
                    With all due respect I'm as old as many here and clearly remember: from day one in the 70's our brains boggled that it was episode 4. We immediately craved prequels from the start, for decades (which we got even if a bit disappointing). And the first thing you read right after the horns sing the intro fanfare is the title of the chapter. A new hope.

                    These are not the controversies you are looking for.

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                    @TrimTab No. "A New Hope" was added to the crawl in the 1981 reissue. Also, memory is a funny thing.

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                    • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                      This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                      . @scalzi same.

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                      • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                        This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                        #32

                        @scalzi PREACH IT

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                        • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                          This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                          @scalzi absolutely

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                          • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                            This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                            @scalzi k gramps

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                            • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                              This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                              @scalzi AMEN! My lame claim to fame is that I have seen every Star Wars film in the theater.

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                              • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                                This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                                @scalzi same

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                                • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                                  This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                                  @scalzi I like how "old enough" works both for as a description of just how far back in time the retitling was, and also serves as a warning signal for a reactionary opinion about name changes (which one also sees about, say, Pluto)

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                                    @johnhattan @scalzi
                                    For all practical purposes it was only released in UK cinemas in 1978...

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                                    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                                      @scalzi

                                      I have, on my bookshelf, a copy of the novelisation of the first film, published in 1977 and written by George Lucas. As a child, the second and third were repeated on TV a lot but I never saw the first one, so I grabbed the book when I saw it.

                                      I was confused by a lot of the uproar around the restored scenes in the remastered ones, because things like the scene with Jabba were in the novelisation.

                                      The title of the book is:

                                      Star Wars: From the adventures of Luke Skywalker.

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                                      @david_chisnall @scalzi I had an A4-sized soft cover "Star Wars storybook" (should still be in a box somewhere) which must have been created while the film was in final edit or something. It's based on production stills with accompanying text and I'm sure there were images/events in there which I never saw on the screen - or maybe it's just because Lucas kept cutting things around for TV edits and whatnot. E.g. there's a page of Luke and Biggs doing stuff on Tatooine before the droids even show up which I don't remember being in the final cut.

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                                      • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                                        This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                                        @scalzi Remember the happy era when it was a story of how any farm boy could grow up to destroy the evil empire, and not the story of the chosen son of Evil Jesus?

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                                        • scalzi@mastodon.socialS scalzi@mastodon.social

                                          This is how old I am: I will NEVER call the first Star Wars film "A New Hope," get your bullshit retcon away from me, it is and always shall be Star Wars, forever and ever amen

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                                          @scalzi Haha, same, but most around my age also does that... guess it's a "kids these days" kinda thing.

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