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  • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

    Fifteen minute break! Up next, @julian discusses Forums in the Fediverse.

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    And we're back. @nodebb and the Fediverse, @julian on the stage.

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      And we're back. @nodebb and the Fediverse, @julian on the stage.

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      "There's too much uniformity in spaces today" - Let's bring back personal expression to profiles, MySpace, GeoCities, etc. for everyone.

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        And we're back. @nodebb and the Fediverse, @julian on the stage.

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        @box464 @nodebb @julian Woohoo!

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        • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

          "There's too much uniformity in spaces today" - Let's bring back personal expression to profiles, MySpace, GeoCities, etc. for everyone.

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          Sites long ago were more specific - communities for people that like anime or a specific tv show or carrots, whatever. Forums can provide that experience again, especially federated ones.

          Right now, our communities are bland and uniform - Facebook Groups, Instagram, etc. - very little room for personal expression or customization.

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            Sites long ago were more specific - communities for people that like anime or a specific tv show or carrots, whatever. Forums can provide that experience again, especially federated ones.

            Right now, our communities are bland and uniform - Facebook Groups, Instagram, etc. - very little room for personal expression or customization.

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            NodeBB distributing content into the fediverse, leveraging the existing structure that exists - microblogging.

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              Sites long ago were more specific - communities for people that like anime or a specific tv show or carrots, whatever. Forums can provide that experience again, especially federated ones.

              Right now, our communities are bland and uniform - Facebook Groups, Instagram, etc. - very little room for personal expression or customization.

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              @box464 Specialization wasn’t aesthetic. It was infrastructural. Smaller forums worked because friction selected for intent, and intent stabilized norms. Large platforms optimize for scale, not texture. Uniformity isn’t accidental, it’s how you make moderation, advertising, and behavioral prediction tractable. The question isn’t customization. It’s who controls the rails and the data exhaust.

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                NodeBB distributing content into the fediverse, leveraging the existing structure that exists - microblogging.

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                Learning some of the secret backend sauce of NodeBB. It uses a relay - FediBuzz - to pull content from specific hashtags into its federated forums.

                I knew that when I tagged #ActivityPub it ended up showing in activitypub.space, now I know how!

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                  Learning some of the secret backend sauce of NodeBB. It uses a relay - FediBuzz - to pull content from specific hashtags into its federated forums.

                  I knew that when I tagged #ActivityPub it ended up showing in activitypub.space, now I know how!

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                  There are some limitations here - these hashtags aren't always the best, you must choose carefully to reduce Signal to Noise ratio. Lots of people use the Fediverse tag and much is not related to the development of ActivityPub.

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                    There are some limitations here - these hashtags aren't always the best, you must choose carefully to reduce Signal to Noise ratio. Lots of people use the Fediverse tag and much is not related to the development of ActivityPub.

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                    Ownership and wide reach - you can have both with the Open Social web. Cross posting is the default today, repackaging your message to fit the requirements of the platform itself. It doesn't have to be.

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                      Ownership and wide reach - you can have both with the Open Social web. Cross posting is the default today, repackaging your message to fit the requirements of the platform itself. It doesn't have to be.

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                      Digital Spaces and AI

                      Misspellings and bad grammar are now indicators of human generated discussions (this is so true, I check exactly the same thing, and thank goodness I have naturally bad typing and grammar)

                      "Authenticity of human interaction is what matters".

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                        Digital Spaces and AI

                        Misspellings and bad grammar are now indicators of human generated discussions (this is so true, I check exactly the same thing, and thank goodness I have naturally bad typing and grammar)

                        "Authenticity of human interaction is what matters".

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                        Julian taking questions. First up, OMG Julia from Wizardzines in the house! Are they Canadian? Who ISN'T Canadian in the fediverse.

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                          Julian taking questions. First up, OMG Julia from Wizardzines in the house! Are they Canadian? Who ISN'T Canadian in the fediverse.

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                          Callout to #GoToSocial from Julian about interaction controls. So true - these types of changes are faster to implement on smaller platforms. Mastodon and other large platforms can then take these ideas and incorporate them as they get fleshed out and tested.

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                            Callout to #GoToSocial from Julian about interaction controls. So true - these types of changes are faster to implement on smaller platforms. Mastodon and other large platforms can then take these ideas and incorporate them as they get fleshed out and tested.

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                            Audience member is commenting how discussion forums can be more legible and personable. With more of a relationship being created between members than you would see in a microblogging platform.

                            Agreed. It's the difference between a local coffee shop and standing at the corner in Time Square and trying to talk to someone.

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                              Audience member is commenting how discussion forums can be more legible and personable. With more of a relationship being created between members than you would see in a microblogging platform.

                              Agreed. It's the difference between a local coffee shop and standing at the corner in Time Square and trying to talk to someone.

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                              AI discussion going on. Julian: "No AI coding in NodeBB".

                              Julian lets out a big sigh, and perhaps an internal UGH with me sighing and UGHing almost in unison, lol.

                              It's a huge, complicated discussion, and one that the fediverse community is largely unwilling to discuss right now without a lot of screaming and finger pointing. Because, it's truly scary, especially to the tech world. Me included.

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                                AI discussion going on. Julian: "No AI coding in NodeBB".

                                Julian lets out a big sigh, and perhaps an internal UGH with me sighing and UGHing almost in unison, lol.

                                It's a huge, complicated discussion, and one that the fediverse community is largely unwilling to discuss right now without a lot of screaming and finger pointing. Because, it's truly scary, especially to the tech world. Me included.

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                                So true - mainstream socials is more about connecting to brands and being entertained by those brands. Less about making true connections with people.

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                                  So true - mainstream socials is more about connecting to brands and being entertained by those brands. Less about making true connections with people.

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                                  Up next - @fedihost discussing Canadian Civil and how they used fediverse tools to build a funding platform - quickly! A peer tube instance.

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                                  Canadian Civil

                                  The production organization for reform and advocacy focused content creators

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                                  Canadian Civil (site.canadiancivil.com)

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                                    Up next - @fedihost discussing Canadian Civil and how they used fediverse tools to build a funding platform - quickly! A peer tube instance.

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                                    The production organization for reform and advocacy focused content creators

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                                    Canadian Civil (site.canadiancivil.com)

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                                    "How to make toaster repair and reviews fascinating."

                                    Comparing toaster content from PeerTube and YouTube, plus getting paid for that toaster content outside of YouTube.

                                    Tell me more.

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                                      "How to make toaster repair and reviews fascinating."

                                      Comparing toaster content from PeerTube and YouTube, plus getting paid for that toaster content outside of YouTube.

                                      Tell me more.

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                                      YouTube adware is by far the largest funding offering for video content creators. But Patreon isn't far behind when you looked at Canadian Civil's audience specifically.

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                                        YouTube adware is by far the largest funding offering for video content creators. But Patreon isn't far behind when you looked at Canadian Civil's audience specifically.

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                                        Pateron offers private blogs, private RSS feeds and more. The content can be delivered both publicly and privately to specific groups of contributors.

                                        Let's get Patreon incorporated into the fediverse!

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                                          Pateron offers private blogs, private RSS feeds and more. The content can be delivered both publicly and privately to specific groups of contributors.

                                          Let's get Patreon incorporated into the fediverse!

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                                          So far, not much interest from Patreon to do this. Should we setup an alternative? Some already exist.

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                                          CrowdBucks is a Fediverse-native crowd-funding, tipping, payments, and membership platform

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                                          (crowdbucks.fund)

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                                          Comradery

                                          Collect money from your subscribers on a cooperatively owned platform

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                                          Comradery (comradery.co)

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                                          Ghost: The best open source blog & newsletter platform

                                          Beautiful, modern publishing with email newsletters and paid subscriptions built-in. Used by Platformer, 404Media, Lever News, Tangle, The Browser, and thousands more.

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                                          Ghost - The Professional Publishing Platform (ghost.org)

                                          And some have come and gone, like SubClub.

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