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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    " #Russia adds #Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after #Magyar wins"

    i have a deep and thoughtful response to this move:

    <begin poignant rumination>

    😂 😂 😂

    </end soulful paean>

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    Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins

    On Sunday, April 12, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary. According to preliminary results, Péter Magyar secured victory, leaving the Kremlin dissatisfied

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    @benroyce Hungary must be doing something right. Congratz!

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    • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

      @benroyce Aw diddums, will Magyar not launder Putin's money to the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) anymore? Where Bannon spoke openly in 2017 of "deconstructing", i.e. dismantling, the federal government of the United States? Has it all been exposed as a hostile foreign influence operation?

      What a shame.

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      @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce "Oh no… what a tragic loss for all those who thrived on shady alliances and ‘creative’ definitions of democracy. Funny how things start to fall apart once the spotlight hits, isn’t it?"

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        " #Russia adds #Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after #Magyar wins"

        i have a deep and thoughtful response to this move:

        <begin poignant rumination>

        😂 😂 😂

        </end soulful paean>

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        Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins

        On Sunday, April 12, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary. According to preliminary results, Péter Magyar secured victory, leaving the Kremlin dissatisfied

        favicon

        RBC-Ukraine (newsukraine.rbc.ua)

        #EU #Europe

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        @benroyce A reminder for #Hungary that Russian leaders are on this list:

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        ICC arrest warrants for Russian leaders - Wikipedia

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        (en.wikipedia.org)

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        • darkpixel@infosec.exchangeD darkpixel@infosec.exchange

          @benroyce A reminder for #Hungary that Russian leaders are on this list:

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          ICC arrest warrants for Russian leaders - Wikipedia

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          (en.wikipedia.org)

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          @darkpixel

          oh all the kremlin goons scrammed on sunday, and won't be back. hopefully forever

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          • ahmadlubna@mastodon.socialA ahmadlubna@mastodon.social

            @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce "Oh no… what a tragic loss for all those who thrived on shady alliances and ‘creative’ definitions of democracy. Funny how things start to fall apart once the spotlight hits, isn’t it?"

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            @ahmadlubna @benroyce Here it is - Bannon's address to what we now know has been the Kremlin-funded CPAC in 2017, cited in Naomi Klein's book, 'No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump's Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need', first published the same year.

            This is not the full speech, just some more data-points in a disturbing picture that suggests American politics in now thoroughly compromised by its traditional geostrategic adversaries. The Cold War never really ended...it just got colder.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              " #Russia adds #Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after #Magyar wins"

              i have a deep and thoughtful response to this move:

              <begin poignant rumination>

              😂 😂 😂

              </end soulful paean>

              Link Preview Image
              Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins

              On Sunday, April 12, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary. According to preliminary results, Péter Magyar secured victory, leaving the Kremlin dissatisfied

              favicon

              RBC-Ukraine (newsukraine.rbc.ua)

              #EU #Europe

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              @benroyce and Magyar was probably classified as 'иноагент' (foreign agent) which would be ironic, because technically Orban was the foreign agent for Russia...

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              • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                @ahmadlubna @benroyce Here it is - Bannon's address to what we now know has been the Kremlin-funded CPAC in 2017, cited in Naomi Klein's book, 'No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump's Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need', first published the same year.

                This is not the full speech, just some more data-points in a disturbing picture that suggests American politics in now thoroughly compromised by its traditional geostrategic adversaries. The Cold War never really ended...it just got colder.

                Link Preview Image
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                @ApostateEnglishman @ahmadlubna @benroyce I wonder how Bannon can keep putting out stuff like that and not be investigated for treason.

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                • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                  @ahmadlubna @benroyce Here it is - Bannon's address to what we now know has been the Kremlin-funded CPAC in 2017, cited in Naomi Klein's book, 'No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump's Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need', first published the same year.

                  This is not the full speech, just some more data-points in a disturbing picture that suggests American politics in now thoroughly compromised by its traditional geostrategic adversaries. The Cold War never really ended...it just got colder.

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                  @ApostateEnglishman @ahmadlubna

                  "Imagine. To peer across the world and know the enemy's secrets. To place our thoughts into the minds of your leaders. Make your teachers teach the true version of history, your soldiers attack on our command. We'll be everywhere at once, more powerful than a whisper, invading your dreams, thinking your thoughts for you while you sleep. We will change you… all of you from the inside. We will turn you into us. And the best part? You won't even know it's happening"

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                  • alpacamale@social.cologneA alpacamale@social.cologne

                    @ApostateEnglishman @ahmadlubna @benroyce I wonder how Bannon can keep putting out stuff like that and not be investigated for treason.

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                    @alpacamale @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce
                    "I am Ahmed from Gaza. Can you share my post? I need your help."

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      " #Russia adds #Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after #Magyar wins"

                      i have a deep and thoughtful response to this move:

                      <begin poignant rumination>

                      😂 😂 😂

                      </end soulful paean>

                      Link Preview Image
                      Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins

                      On Sunday, April 12, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary. According to preliminary results, Péter Magyar secured victory, leaving the Kremlin dissatisfied

                      favicon

                      RBC-Ukraine (newsukraine.rbc.ua)

                      #EU #Europe

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                      @benroyce what a compliment 🍻

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                      • blogdiva@mastodon.socialB blogdiva@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce what a compliment 🍻

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                        @blogdiva

                        🏆 🥇

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                        • ahmadlubna@mastodon.socialA ahmadlubna@mastodon.social

                          @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce "Oh no… what a tragic loss for all those who thrived on shady alliances and ‘creative’ definitions of democracy. Funny how things start to fall apart once the spotlight hits, isn’t it?"

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                          @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce
                          "I am Ahmed from Gaza. Can you share my post? I need your help."

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                          • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

                            @ahmadlubna @benroyce Here it is - Bannon's address to what we now know has been the Kremlin-funded CPAC in 2017, cited in Naomi Klein's book, 'No Is Not Enough: Resisting Trump's Shock Politics and Winning the World We Need', first published the same year.

                            This is not the full speech, just some more data-points in a disturbing picture that suggests American politics in now thoroughly compromised by its traditional geostrategic adversaries. The Cold War never really ended...it just got colder.

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                            @ApostateEnglishman @benroyce
                            "I am Ahmed from Gaza. Can you share my post? I need your help."

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              " #Russia adds #Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after #Magyar wins"

                              i have a deep and thoughtful response to this move:

                              <begin poignant rumination>

                              😂 😂 😂

                              </end soulful paean>

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                              Russia adds Hungary to 'unfriendly countries' list after Magyar wins

                              On Sunday, April 12, parliamentary elections were held in Hungary. According to preliminary results, Péter Magyar secured victory, leaving the Kremlin dissatisfied

                              favicon

                              RBC-Ukraine (newsukraine.rbc.ua)

                              #EU #Europe

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                              @benroyce One of the things I like best about democracy's victory in Hungary is that it provides an irrefutable argument against those who claim "voting doesn't matter" and "voting can't change totalitarian regimes." Of *course* voting matters! Orban is gone! Everyone needs to vote, every time! (And we can still protest, throw sabots, etc. It's not either/or.)

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                              • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                                @benroyce One of the things I like best about democracy's victory in Hungary is that it provides an irrefutable argument against those who claim "voting doesn't matter" and "voting can't change totalitarian regimes." Of *course* voting matters! Orban is gone! Everyone needs to vote, every time! (And we can still protest, throw sabots, etc. It's not either/or.)

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                                @msbellows

                                but if it's true that voting works, that means i can't just whine endlessly and impotently online, to do the fascists' work for them and argue for helplessness and inaction on a potent tool against them, and thus provide a rationale for accepting their abuse

                                but surely my cynical defeatist whining will fix things?

                                (/s)

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                                • msbellows@c.imM msbellows@c.im

                                  @benroyce One of the things I like best about democracy's victory in Hungary is that it provides an irrefutable argument against those who claim "voting doesn't matter" and "voting can't change totalitarian regimes." Of *course* voting matters! Orban is gone! Everyone needs to vote, every time! (And we can still protest, throw sabots, etc. It's not either/or.)

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                                  @msbellows @benroyce

                                  Believe a more subtle point is also demonstrated in Hungary.

                                  That the perfect is the enemy of the good.

                                  The victorious coalition is not liberal. It is a conglomerate of 'everyone but the fascists.'

                                  The important thing was for them to put down their differences, show up and vote the fascists out.

                                  Only now, with democracy restored, can they move forward.

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                                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                    @msbellows @benroyce

                                    Believe a more subtle point is also demonstrated in Hungary.

                                    That the perfect is the enemy of the good.

                                    The victorious coalition is not liberal. It is a conglomerate of 'everyone but the fascists.'

                                    The important thing was for them to put down their differences, show up and vote the fascists out.

                                    Only now, with democracy restored, can they move forward.

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                                    @mastodonmigration @msbellows @benroyce Exactly. The new Hungarian leader is nowhere near someone I'd vote for in a perfect world. But would I have voted for him against Orban (or Trump)? Hell yes.

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                                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                      @msbellows @benroyce

                                      Believe a more subtle point is also demonstrated in Hungary.

                                      That the perfect is the enemy of the good.

                                      The victorious coalition is not liberal. It is a conglomerate of 'everyone but the fascists.'

                                      The important thing was for them to put down their differences, show up and vote the fascists out.

                                      Only now, with democracy restored, can they move forward.

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                                      @mastodonmigration @msbellows

                                      "i don't want the lesser evil, i want good"

                                      every political choice is between evil and lesser evil

                                      all times past, now, forever more

                                      if a candidate is angelic, smearmongering gossips do their work and in the popular imagination the good candidate is now the lesser evil

                                      the problem is not choosing between evil and lesser evil

                                      the problem is your faulty cognition about what is really going on

                                      you *vote*

                                      you *iterate*

                                      you *sustain*

                                      et voila:

                                      you get good

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @msbellows

                                        but if it's true that voting works, that means i can't just whine endlessly and impotently online, to do the fascists' work for them and argue for helplessness and inaction on a potent tool against them, and thus provide a rationale for accepting their abuse

                                        but surely my cynical defeatist whining will fix things?

                                        (/s)

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                                        @benroyce @msbellows Cynical defeatism is like one of those ouroboros snake things. The useless inaction and whining empowers the fascists to do even more awful stuff, which in turn inspires even more cynical defeatism

                                        Except in this metaphor the snake is sucking its own dick

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @mastodonmigration @msbellows

                                          "i don't want the lesser evil, i want good"

                                          every political choice is between evil and lesser evil

                                          all times past, now, forever more

                                          if a candidate is angelic, smearmongering gossips do their work and in the popular imagination the good candidate is now the lesser evil

                                          the problem is not choosing between evil and lesser evil

                                          the problem is your faulty cognition about what is really going on

                                          you *vote*

                                          you *iterate*

                                          you *sustain*

                                          et voila:

                                          you get good

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                                          @benroyce @mastodonmigration @msbellows And NO ONE will ever be perfect or perfect to all. People will always have different priorities based on their lives. There are overall priorities, though. Are they going to move things forward or backwards? Human rights or dehumanization are pretty clear differences to consider when voting and that’s where we are in these times.

                                          Perfection is only ever something to strive for, not something to expect.

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