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CIRCLE WITH A DOT

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So I’m stuck.

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    And it is at moments like this that you realise that

    COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

    I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

    But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

    My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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    @jon but still there‘s heaps of people in countries Like Germany asking for compulsory reservations…

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    • flangey@chaos.socialF flangey@chaos.social

      @jon At some point it does become miserable - when people can't even get to their assigned seats or to the toilets/catering. But that's the British railway experience where any disruption gives you the "it's 1975 and this is the last helicopter out of Saigon" experience

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      @flangey Sure. But how many passengers from Laroche Migennes need a Eurostar to Liege? I agree there’s a limit, but a few can work!

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Finally close to Paris.

        2 hours 30 mins late, for no fault of my own.

        And I’ve got no idea if or when I can continue my journey towards Maastricht. 11:51 from Nord, ideally, but contingent on a friendly train manager…

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        The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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          @jon But you're right, having to rely on the courtesy of train staff is a terrible position to be in. That's what makes people take their car instead.

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            The train manager was friendly. So I’m on my #CrossBorderRail to Liège. In the bar for now…

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            Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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              @jon this is why I say we should never book a train ticket, but buy a train ticket.

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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                I tried the ticket office for Eurostar first. But there were 3 desks open and a crazy queue. That would not have worked. #CrossBorderRail

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  I tried the ticket office for Eurostar first. But there were 3 desks open and a crazy queue. That would not have worked. #CrossBorderRail

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                  @jon I was told at the ticket desk in Paris that I would need to talk to the train manager, after waiting for 15 minutes

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                  • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                    @jon I was told at the ticket desk in Paris that I would need to talk to the train manager, after waiting for 15 minutes

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                    @webhat the problem is you can’t always get to the train manager! But yes, if you can it’s the best - for Eurostar. They have more power than SNCF ones.

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      @webhat the problem is you can’t always get to the train manager! But yes, if you can it’s the best - for Eurostar. They have more power than SNCF ones.

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                      @jon So you wait before the closed barriers, waiting for attendants to show up, and then you ask them to get the train manager for you? I don't suppose you had a valid ticket to actually get next to the train before that

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                        @jon So you wait before the closed barriers, waiting for attendants to show up, and then you ask them to get the train manager for you? I don't suppose you had a valid ticket to actually get next to the train before that

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                        @bentorfs Correct. I showed my ticket for the 09:46 at the barrier, and asked to go see the train manager. And am on the 11:51.

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Also I increased the chances of this working by knowing what type of Eurostar - Thalys runs the Köln service, and waiting right beside it before the platform was announced. That meant I was the first to see the train manager. That ought not be necessary! #CrossBorderRail

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                          @jon I'm taking this Sunday evening.

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                          • hub@cosocial.caH hub@cosocial.ca

                            @jon I'm taking this Sunday evening.

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                            @hub hopefully under better circumstances than my trip today!

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                            • footils@social.cologneF footils@social.cologne

                              @jon People in Germany like to rant about Deutsche Bahn, they don't know SNCF/Eurostar ...

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                              @footils @jon I used to tell them "at least you have trains, or at least an attempt to run them" and then I get to explain trains in Canada.

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                                @uc @jon Some route still don't have bar service... unless you BYOB.

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @hub hopefully under better circumstances than my trip today!

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                                  @jon it can be late 2:30 hours and I'll be winning. (long connection for the ICE in Cologne)

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                                    @bentorfs I had a decent amount of time to transfer. But I was 2 hours 30 mins late into Paris! I didn’t give myself that much 🙂

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                                      @jon So you wait before the closed barriers, waiting for attendants to show up, and then you ask them to get the train manager for you? I don't suppose you had a valid ticket to actually get next to the train before that

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                                      @bentorfs @jon in one case for me I had a first class ticket and the attendants told me to go to and enter the bistro car and wait for the train manager there

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        And it is at moments like this that you realise that

                                        COMPULSORY RESERVATION TRAINS ARE SHIT

                                        I will happily stand the whole way from Paris to Liège, because better that than not getting there at all

                                        But as the Eurostar is compulsory reservation I am likely not allowed on it

                                        My need to get to my destination is higher than the mild inconvenience to some other passenger if I am standing beside them in an aisle

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                                        @jon i always assumed this was a liability / safety issue but yes, it is annoying.

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          @bentorfs I had a decent amount of time to transfer. But I was 2 hours 30 mins late into Paris! I didn’t give myself that much 🙂

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                                          @jon Unfortunately my way to Paris involves unreliable TER and/or intercités, and many kilometers of track popular with sangliers and chevreuil. 2h30 doesn't seem so crazy

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