#MarALago
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they can't
see people are worried about the erosion of #democracy in the #usa and they are correct
and the solution is we vote *more* and get real leftists in power and close the loopholes
but there is this unfortunate human hopelessness where people just give up (or outright troll #psyop cosplaying left encouraging that)
i don't understand why people don't #vote. they only help #fascism. it's #entitlement: "won't affect me." or cluelessness (it will affect them but they don't know)
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they can't
see people are worried about the erosion of #democracy in the #usa and they are correct
and the solution is we vote *more* and get real leftists in power and close the loopholes
but there is this unfortunate human hopelessness where people just give up (or outright troll #psyop cosplaying left encouraging that)
i don't understand why people don't #vote. they only help #fascism. it's #entitlement: "won't affect me." or cluelessness (it will affect them but they don't know)
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#Trump's Plutocrat-Bigot-Child Rapist power nexus
Now in a #Democrat ruled state district in #MAGA #Florida
"They'll steal the vote"
You'll do #prematureCapitulation and not vote?
"Both sides the same"
You're an idiot fine with MAGA #fascism?
"But my obsessive single issue"
You're fine with destroying #transRights, #womensRights, #immigrantRights, etc in #ToxicIdealism?
#Primaries and November
#Democrats suck but we can freeze Trump's agenda
I just love it when good news is also delightful. This is both.
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#Trump's Plutocrat-Bigot-Child Rapist power nexus
Now in a #Democrat ruled state district in #MAGA #Florida
"They'll steal the vote"
You'll do #prematureCapitulation and not vote?
"Both sides the same"
You're an idiot fine with MAGA #fascism?
"But my obsessive single issue"
You're fine with destroying #transRights, #womensRights, #immigrantRights, etc in #ToxicIdealism?
#Primaries and November
#Democrats suck but we can freeze Trump's agenda
@benroyce it looks like we’ve also flipped Senate District 14 to Democrats. With less than 500 votes between them despite the republican candidate having a jaw dropping amount of funding backing her.
So, this one will definitely be recounted before it’s certified, but wow!
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they can't
see people are worried about the erosion of #democracy in the #usa and they are correct
and the solution is we vote *more* and get real leftists in power and close the loopholes
but there is this unfortunate human hopelessness where people just give up (or outright troll #psyop cosplaying left encouraging that)
i don't understand why people don't #vote. they only help #fascism. it's #entitlement: "won't affect me." or cluelessness (it will affect them but they don't know)
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what is the point of your assertion?
give up?
because malice intends to harm you, you accept they already succeeded?
do you see the self-destructive foolishness of your sentiment here?
you fight. you always fight. giving in and giving up is not an option
hell, they vote in venezuela, and there the vote is *really* fucked
all i'm concluding is venezuelans have way more backbone than weak, entitled, whiny americans ready to just roll over and take the abuse passively
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what is the point of your assertion?
give up?
because malice intends to harm you, you accept they already succeeded?
do you see the self-destructive foolishness of your sentiment here?
you fight. you always fight. giving in and giving up is not an option
hell, they vote in venezuela, and there the vote is *really* fucked
all i'm concluding is venezuelans have way more backbone than weak, entitled, whiny americans ready to just roll over and take the abuse passively
@benroyce @bridgeenjoyer I was thinking of the original agreement, which limited his live at the golf club to 11 days a year, but which he never followed
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@benroyce @bridgeenjoyer I was thinking of the original agreement, which limited his live at the golf club to 11 days a year, but which he never followed
yeah you were just making a joke, and i sort of hijacked your comment, because of my obsessive focus on voting. forgive me. we good
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@bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @aho
Then they might get caught cheating which might upset even the most apathetic centrist and some of the rubes supporting them enough, that they join protests/revolutions/anything.If people don't vote, they just win by default, allowing them to keep up an illusion that everything is working as intended and anybody who'd rather look away than get involved can do so without experiencing even the tiniest bit of discomfort.
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@bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @aho
Then they might get caught cheating which might upset even the most apathetic centrist and some of the rubes supporting them enough, that they join protests/revolutions/anything.If people don't vote, they just win by default, allowing them to keep up an illusion that everything is working as intended and anybody who'd rather look away than get involved can do so without experiencing even the tiniest bit of discomfort.
@painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
nevermind that the vote is controlled by the states. red states might fuck around with the vote but they are already red states
so anyone going "MAGA intends to fuck with the vote, waah, therefore they already did and won, waah" are just describing their own spinelessness, not reality
unless there are enough of such spineless complacent fools. then they are practicing self-fulfilling prophecy, not voting, and handing the country to MAGA
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@painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
nevermind that the vote is controlled by the states. red states might fuck around with the vote but they are already red states
so anyone going "MAGA intends to fuck with the vote, waah, therefore they already did and won, waah" are just describing their own spinelessness, not reality
unless there are enough of such spineless complacent fools. then they are practicing self-fulfilling prophecy, not voting, and handing the country to MAGA
@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho That's why they're planning to start sending ICE to the polls as an intimidation tactic. Even in Minnesota they're still sending state and local cops out to protect and support ICE no matter what those thugs do...
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@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho That's why they're planning to start sending ICE to the polls as an intimidation tactic. Even in Minnesota they're still sending state and local cops out to protect and support ICE no matter what those thugs do...
@admin @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
they can send ICE to block polling stations
we show up anyway
the idea MAGA exhibits menace and we just give in and give up is ridiculous
btw, i'm not saying that is your sentiment, i'm just riffing on your comment for those reading out there who are spineless (not you)
ICE at the polls:
1. meek weak americans stay home
2. we fucking shove the goons aside
which scenario is the real left?
which scenario is willing submission to fascism?
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@admin @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
they can send ICE to block polling stations
we show up anyway
the idea MAGA exhibits menace and we just give in and give up is ridiculous
btw, i'm not saying that is your sentiment, i'm just riffing on your comment for those reading out there who are spineless (not you)
ICE at the polls:
1. meek weak americans stay home
2. we fucking shove the goons aside
which scenario is the real left?
which scenario is willing submission to fascism?
@benroyce @admin @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho Option 2 is what me and mine are going to be doing.
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@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho That's why they're planning to start sending ICE to the polls as an intimidation tactic. Even in Minnesota they're still sending state and local cops out to protect and support ICE no matter what those thugs do...
@admin @benroyce @bridgeenjoyer @aho
Then that is what they should have to do. Every single act of escalation on their part comes with the chance of turning people from "this seems bad but I'm not gonna risk my neck because of it" to "this is completely unacceptable and I'm gonna do something about it". -
@admin @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
they can send ICE to block polling stations
we show up anyway
the idea MAGA exhibits menace and we just give in and give up is ridiculous
btw, i'm not saying that is your sentiment, i'm just riffing on your comment for those reading out there who are spineless (not you)
ICE at the polls:
1. meek weak americans stay home
2. we fucking shove the goons aside
which scenario is the real left?
which scenario is willing submission to fascism?
@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho Sure, but that's easy for this privileged middle class white guy to say. If ICE is deployed to the polls, people who don't look white enough *will* be hauled off and jailed for weeks or months without charge (possibly even disappeared entirely) -- just like they're already doing to folks on the streets. I hope that won't scare off too many folks but it's hard for me to sit here and tell people with families to worry about to just ignore that risk.
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@bridgeenjoyer @benroyce @aho
Then they might get caught cheating which might upset even the most apathetic centrist and some of the rubes supporting them enough, that they join protests/revolutions/anything.If people don't vote, they just win by default, allowing them to keep up an illusion that everything is working as intended and anybody who'd rather look away than get involved can do so without experiencing even the tiniest bit of discomfort.
@painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @benroyce one misconception some people have is the if they register to vote, then they will also added to the jury duty list, but in many states it seems to be enough to get a driving license to be added to the possible jury duty list.
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@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho Sure, but that's easy for this privileged middle class white guy to say. If ICE is deployed to the polls, people who don't look white enough *will* be hauled off and jailed for weeks or months without charge (possibly even disappeared entirely) -- just like they're already doing to folks on the streets. I hope that won't scare off too many folks but it's hard for me to sit here and tell people with families to worry about to just ignore that risk.
@admin @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @aho
i'd be careful with that statement. you're saying nonwhite folks have no fight in them. of course the stakes are higher for oppressed groups, but time and time again we see the oppressed have more backbone and fight in them than the middle class whites who are fine with fascism
it's not that the white middle class douchebag is ok with a fight. it's more like the white middle class douchebag won't show up and won't fight and won't vote
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@painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer @benroyce one misconception some people have is the if they register to vote, then they will also added to the jury duty list, but in many states it seems to be enough to get a driving license to be added to the possible jury duty list.
@aho @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer
jury duty is a civic obligation. if someone is put off because they don't want to do jury duty this is a further definition of an entitled loser who is fine with fascism
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@aho @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer
jury duty is a civic obligation. if someone is put off because they don't want to do jury duty this is a further definition of an entitled loser who is fine with fascism
@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer I'm not a believer of jury or bonds, replace the jury with "junior" judges and they know the laws better than someone from the street and why let someone pay to get out of jail (for a while at least), either the court think there is no ground to hold the person or the person should held, not something in between.
but that is a completely different topic...
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@benroyce @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer I'm not a believer of jury or bonds, replace the jury with "junior" judges and they know the laws better than someone from the street and why let someone pay to get out of jail (for a while at least), either the court think there is no ground to hold the person or the person should held, not something in between.
but that is a completely different topic...
@aho @painting_squirrel @bridgeenjoyer
you can bribe a judge. and over a lifetime the judge will start making decisions on an agenda rather than the individual merits of an individual case
so, it's not possible for me to disagree with you more, and quite heavily. i think this is a terrible statement you're making. it has to be juries
