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" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @fathermcgruder

    if you vote 3rd party you are voting MAGA

    in our stupid FPTP voting system you are dividing the left vote and helping MAGA win

    and if you stand against harris, for example, due to gaza (ignoring trump?!), then not voting/ 3rd party voting: congratulations, you helped what trump is doing in iran happen

    you're talking about feeling pure, for yourself

    you don't care what happens in reality

    that's entitled

    your rationale only helps fascism

    a vote is strategy, not a romance

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    #91

    @benroyce @fathermcgruder

    a the fuk men!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @fathermcgruder

      if you vote 3rd party you are voting MAGA

      in our stupid FPTP voting system you are dividing the left vote and helping MAGA win

      and if you stand against harris, for example, due to gaza (ignoring trump?!), then not voting/ 3rd party voting: congratulations, you helped what trump is doing in iran happen

      you're talking about feeling pure, for yourself

      you don't care what happens in reality

      that's entitled

      your rationale only helps fascism

      a vote is strategy, not a romance

      bluewaver22@genomic.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #92

      @benroyce @fathermcgruder damn straight—- sharewildly!!!!!

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      • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

        @benroyce As a note - "Vote in the primaries" is harder in some states than others.
        If you are registered independent, and try to change parties to democrat in NY right now (after Feb 14th), you won't be able to vote in this round of primaries - your party change won't happen until june 30. And if you're not registered as a democrat, you can not vote in the dem primary (closed primaries).
        So - worth checking how your local elections handle that sooner than later.

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        #93

        @miss_rodent @benroyce Absurdly up here Alaska only the GOP is closed. but it breaks out to be;

        80,819 – Nonpartisans
        256,066 – Undeclared
        142,104 – Republican Party
        77,348 – Democrat Party

        Independent bunch of folks!!

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @fathermcgruder

          no

          we show up in the primaries and get the left candidate in

          this is the lesson of mamdani: the people just bucked the establishment, and made it happen

          corporatist dems will not magically decide to become leftists, and anyone who thinks they will must be joking

          *we* have to show up and replace them

          anyone who doesn't show up in the primaries, then complains the dem candidates suck, needs to shut up: they are the reason why the candidates suck

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          @benroyce @fathermcgruder I still find it funny in the 60's Mamdani would have been considered as Middle Left, On the ballot was UBI, and the Party head of the American Communist party was in the race. Even some of the Right supported civil rights for all, that included LBGTQIA and Trans, nobody cared about Drag Queens. Now tell me we have moved to far to the Left.

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @davoyager

            just the other day i ran into a comment with pro-ukraine symbols on the account, that proceeded to complain ukraine has no real freedom. i looked in its history and it bashed elon musk right after musk made starlink unavailable to russians on the front line (i mean fuck elon musk, but interesting timing no?)

            once a week i encounter these mindless comments trying to sell hopelessness about voting

            i doubt you

            i think there's bots absolutely everywhere

            including on mastodon

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            @benroyce Yeah there are bots everywhere. I'm just saying there are fewer. Threads and X are flooded with them

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @fathermcgruder

              if you vote 3rd party you are voting MAGA

              in our stupid FPTP voting system you are dividing the left vote and helping MAGA win

              and if you stand against harris, for example, due to gaza (ignoring trump?!), then not voting/ 3rd party voting: congratulations, you helped what trump is doing in iran happen

              you're talking about feeling pure, for yourself

              you don't care what happens in reality

              that's entitled

              your rationale only helps fascism

              a vote is strategy, not a romance

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              #96

              @benroyce No, that is shill logic. Votes must be earned. No candidate, especially from a party that is barely a party, is entitled to anyone's vote.

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              • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                @bBuck @benroyce Attempt to confuse democrats?
                I don't know what that means.
                It's not a pretend party, it's probably a more powerful party in NY state politics than the republicans are, their support is a significant part of why Mamdani is NYC mayor right now.

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                #97

                @miss_rodent @benroyce
                You’re so good at luring an old guy into a party that’s not a party yet. Thanks so much for your help. Mamdani is a lighthouse beacon that I will easily follow. There are many sparks of candidates I like. But currently there is one party that can defeat MAGA, especially with the Trump administration imploding. And it’s not the Mamdani Party.

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                • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                  @benroyce No, that is shill logic. Votes must be earned. No candidate, especially from a party that is barely a party, is entitled to anyone's vote.

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                  #98

                  @fathermcgruder

                  There *is* something entitled to your vote:

                  Your society

                  You're not trans or an immigrant etc so Trump's malice doesn't threaten you

                  So you are privileged to play silly games like "teach dems a lesson" and allow your society to go to shit. Because it doesn't affect you (or you're too stupid to realize it affects you)

                  Centrist dems aren't listening to your "lesson." Not voting means you don't care

                  You have to show up and *replace* centrist dems in the primaries

                  #vote

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                  • bbuck@mastodon.socialB bbuck@mastodon.social

                    @miss_rodent @benroyce
                    You’re so good at luring an old guy into a party that’s not a party yet. Thanks so much for your help. Mamdani is a lighthouse beacon that I will easily follow. There are many sparks of candidates I like. But currently there is one party that can defeat MAGA, especially with the Trump administration imploding. And it’s not the Mamdani Party.

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                    @bBuck @miss_rodent

                    Mamdani ran on the Working Families Party line

                    And the Democratic Party line

                    REST OF COMMENT WIPED OUT DUE TO ME BEING A PUNCH DRUNK IDIOT

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                    • D davoyager@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce Yeah there are bots everywhere. I'm just saying there are fewer. Threads and X are flooded with them

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                      #100

                      @davoyager agreed. There are less

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @bBuck @miss_rodent

                        Mamdani ran on the Working Families Party line

                        And the Democratic Party line

                        REST OF COMMENT WIPED OUT DUE TO ME BEING A PUNCH DRUNK IDIOT

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                        #101

                        @benroyce @miss_rodent
                        Sure. Blame it on the old guy. Maybe the Odd nonbinary lunatic squirrel thing wants to take a different approach in trying to get all of us onboard.

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @fathermcgruder

                          There *is* something entitled to your vote:

                          Your society

                          You're not trans or an immigrant etc so Trump's malice doesn't threaten you

                          So you are privileged to play silly games like "teach dems a lesson" and allow your society to go to shit. Because it doesn't affect you (or you're too stupid to realize it affects you)

                          Centrist dems aren't listening to your "lesson." Not voting means you don't care

                          You have to show up and *replace* centrist dems in the primaries

                          #vote

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                          @benroyce @fathermcgruder Agree completely with Ben. Leftists didn’t like Hubert Humphrey in 1968 because he was too connected to Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam War, so we got 8 years of Nixon, more escalation, more body bags, Cointelpro, murdered Black Panthers etc. Leftists didn’t like Al Gore in 2000, so we got 8 years of GWB, two devastating wars, a broken economy, John Roberts and Sam Alito, inaction on climate change…1/

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                          • bbuck@mastodon.socialB bbuck@mastodon.social

                            @miss_rodent @benroyce
                            You’re so good at luring an old guy into a party that’s not a party yet. Thanks so much for your help. Mamdani is a lighthouse beacon that I will easily follow. There are many sparks of candidates I like. But currently there is one party that can defeat MAGA, especially with the Trump administration imploding. And it’s not the Mamdani Party.

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                            @bBuck @benroyce NY elections have rules that allow a candidate to run for multiple parties at once, without splitting the vote and having a spoiler effect. National elections do not have this.
                            So, on the federal level, and in most states, yes, the dems are the only ones that can meaningfully challenge the republicans right noww.
                            But at the local level, things can be more complicated, and a lot of people register for parties based on local concerns rather than national ones.

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                            • bbuck@mastodon.socialB bbuck@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce @miss_rodent
                              Sure. Blame it on the old guy. Maybe the Odd nonbinary lunatic squirrel thing wants to take a different approach in trying to get all of us onboard.

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                              @bBuck @miss_rodent

                              COMMENT EDITED DUE TO ME BEING A PUNCH DRUNK IDIOT

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @bBuck @miss_rodent

                                COMMENT EDITED DUE TO ME BEING A PUNCH DRUNK IDIOT

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                                @benroyce @bBuck I am not certain he meant to be antagonistic? I didn't read his comment as such, at least - either way, I checked his timeline before replying, I don't think he has anything against nonbinary people.
                                I call myself a "thing" in my bio - he was quoting my description directly.

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                                • jbluespruce@mstdn.socialJ jbluespruce@mstdn.social

                                  @benroyce @fathermcgruder Agree completely with Ben. Leftists didn’t like Hubert Humphrey in 1968 because he was too connected to Johnson’s escalation of the Vietnam War, so we got 8 years of Nixon, more escalation, more body bags, Cointelpro, murdered Black Panthers etc. Leftists didn’t like Al Gore in 2000, so we got 8 years of GWB, two devastating wars, a broken economy, John Roberts and Sam Alito, inaction on climate change…1/

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                                  @benroyce @fathermcgruder Leftists didn’t like Hillary in 2016 or Kamala in 2024…see the pattern? These were all close elections. If we had won even 1 of them, everyone’s lives would have been better, and leftists would have had more space to push for change. Now we are fighting to survive. And millions of people all over the globe are dead who would still be alive.

                                  Voting is harm reduction at worst, transformative at best. There’s nothing evil about reducing harm.2/

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                                  • miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM miss_rodent@girlcock.club

                                    @benroyce @bBuck I am not certain he meant to be antagonistic? I didn't read his comment as such, at least - either way, I checked his timeline before replying, I don't think he has anything against nonbinary people.
                                    I call myself a "thing" in my bio - he was quoting my description directly.

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                                    #107

                                    @miss_rodent @bBuck ok cool

                                    Sorry

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @fathermcgruder

                                      There *is* something entitled to your vote:

                                      Your society

                                      You're not trans or an immigrant etc so Trump's malice doesn't threaten you

                                      So you are privileged to play silly games like "teach dems a lesson" and allow your society to go to shit. Because it doesn't affect you (or you're too stupid to realize it affects you)

                                      Centrist dems aren't listening to your "lesson." Not voting means you don't care

                                      You have to show up and *replace* centrist dems in the primaries

                                      #vote

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                                      @benroyce Dude you don't know anything about me or how or why I vote. That you assume I see voting or not-voting as a means stick it to someone or something reveals your own faulty understanding or disregard of material reality. If Democrats want leftists to vote for them, they just have to run candidates that clear some very low bars. These votes are much easier to get than those from conservatives.

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                                      • fathermcgruder@jorts.horseF fathermcgruder@jorts.horse

                                        @benroyce Dude you don't know anything about me or how or why I vote. That you assume I see voting or not-voting as a means stick it to someone or something reveals your own faulty understanding or disregard of material reality. If Democrats want leftists to vote for them, they just have to run candidates that clear some very low bars. These votes are much easier to get than those from conservatives.

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                                        @benroyce Of course, losing campaigns still pay very well, as demonstrated by Kamala's. It's questionable that they really want to win sometimes.

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @miss_rodent @bBuck ok cool

                                          Sorry

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                                          @benroyce @miss_rodent
                                          No worries. My dad was a civics teacher in high school. I know very well how messy politics can be. It was also very difficult to skip school.

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