" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"
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thank you!
@benroyce No problem. The rules around primaries in this country (and even just here in NY) are an aggressively anti-democratic mess, in a lot of places.
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Because that's how it works the ppl "in true power" will stop any change as much as possible .. I blame the family that started this shit in late 1700's the du pont family specifically
but the point is to fix it
not accept it
right?
i always worry about comments like yours because i read them and then i think
"and?"
"and therefore we are doomed"
or
"and therefore get mad and vote"?
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@benroyce As a note - "Vote in the primaries" is harder in some states than others.
If you are registered independent, and try to change parties to democrat in NY right now (after Feb 14th), you won't be able to vote in this round of primaries - your party change won't happen until june 30. And if you're not registered as a democrat, you can not vote in the dem primary (closed primaries).
So - worth checking how your local elections handle that sooner than later.@miss_rodent @benroyce
It’s much easier when you know to vote Democrat for life. There was never a time that switching to Red made sense to me at all. -
@benroyce There are very few bots o this platform especially compared to Threads, bluesky and of course X
just the other day i ran into a comment with pro-ukraine symbols on the account, that proceeded to complain ukraine has no real freedom. i looked in its history and it bashed elon musk right after musk made starlink unavailable to russians on the front line (i mean fuck elon musk, but interesting timing no?)
once a week i encounter these mindless comments trying to sell hopelessness about voting
i doubt you
i think there's bots absolutely everywhere
including on mastodon
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" #Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets"
remember the game plan:
1. #vote in the #primaries, get real left #candidates
if you don't don't complain about corporatist dems ever again: you're the fucking problem
2. #vote in the general no matter who wins the primaries
yes, the dems fucking suck, but if you're willing to let your country slide to #fascism because you don't get perfect you're an entitled moron
Democrats deliver ‘stunning’ flip in New Hampshire special election, latest in series of 28 upsets
Bobbi Boudman’s win over Republican Dale Fincher could be a harbinger of blue wave during midterms
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
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@benroyce No problem. The rules around primaries in this country (and even just here in NY) are an aggressively anti-democratic mess, in a lot of places.
@miss_rodent @benroyce in WI you have to choose a team going in, regardless of registration. So, one can either vote for their preferred party candidate or choose a spoiler for the opposite team.
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@benroyce No problem. The rules around primaries in this country (and even just here in NY) are an aggressively anti-democratic mess, in a lot of places.
yup (i'm near rochester ny)
and we fix it, by showing up, and iterating
we just have to remind people: they have to fucking show up
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no
we show up in the primaries and get the left candidate in
this is the lesson of mamdani: the people just bucked the establishment, and made it happen
corporatist dems will not magically decide to become leftists, and anyone who thinks they will must be joking
*we* have to show up and replace them
anyone who doesn't show up in the primaries, then complains the dem candidates suck, needs to shut up: they are the reason why the candidates suck
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but the point is to fix it
not accept it
right?
i always worry about comments like yours because i read them and then i think
"and?"
"and therefore we are doomed"
or
"and therefore get mad and vote"?
@benroyce @andrew @davoyager oh I'm not saying we are doomed I'm just saying we have to force those ppl hand scare them even
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@benroyce @andrew @davoyager oh I'm not saying we are doomed I'm just saying we have to force those ppl hand scare them even
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@miss_rodent @benroyce
It’s much easier when you know to vote Democrat for life. There was never a time that switching to Red made sense to me at all. -
no
we show up in the primaries and get the left candidate in
this is the lesson of mamdani: the people just bucked the establishment, and made it happen
corporatist dems will not magically decide to become leftists, and anyone who thinks they will must be joking
*we* have to show up and replace them
anyone who doesn't show up in the primaries, then complains the dem candidates suck, needs to shut up: they are the reason why the candidates suck
@benroyce Ok so what if leftists do come out to vote in the primaries, but their vote gets split because whoops there happen to be one too many leftish candidates running and then the pro-genocide candidate gets the nomination?
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no
we show up in the primaries and get the left candidate in
this is the lesson of mamdani: the people just bucked the establishment, and made it happen
corporatist dems will not magically decide to become leftists, and anyone who thinks they will must be joking
*we* have to show up and replace them
anyone who doesn't show up in the primaries, then complains the dem candidates suck, needs to shut up: they are the reason why the candidates suck
@benroyce @fathermcgruder AOC also, who shocked the Democrats by defeating a very senior corporate Democrat in a primary.
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@benroyce Ok so what if leftists do come out to vote in the primaries, but their vote gets split because whoops there happen to be one too many leftish candidates running and then the pro-genocide candidate gets the nomination?
i don't understand your complaint
"what if something bad happens"?
of course. there's numerous other scenarios where something can go wrong
or the centrist dem can straight up beat the leftist dem in the primary
and?
the simple point is:
if you vote, you may lose. if you don't vote, you *will* lose
nevermind that if leftists show the fuck up, their concerns will be addressed rather than ignored
no elected official cares about people who don't #vote
you *make them* care
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@benroyce @fathermcgruder AOC also, who shocked the Democrats by defeating a very senior corporate Democrat in a primary.
exactly
i only use the mamdani example because he's more recent
people need to show the fuck up in the primaries if they want leftists in power
simple
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i don't understand your complaint
"what if something bad happens"?
of course. there's numerous other scenarios where something can go wrong
or the centrist dem can straight up beat the leftist dem in the primary
and?
the simple point is:
if you vote, you may lose. if you don't vote, you *will* lose
nevermind that if leftists show the fuck up, their concerns will be addressed rather than ignored
no elected official cares about people who don't #vote
you *make them* care
@benroyce I'm just trying to get clarification on who you think is an entitled moron and under what circumstances. If leftists keep voting blue no matter who, the message that sends is that the Democrats can ignore leftists. We should not encourage that sort of entitlement on behalf of the party.
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@miss_rodent @benroyce
Thanks for your attempt to confuse Democrats. I will vote Democrat 100%. The other pretend-parties have no chance. Your choice: pretend parties or the party that can lift us out of this darkness. -
@benroyce I'm just trying to get clarification on who you think is an entitled moron and under what circumstances. If leftists keep voting blue no matter who, the message that sends is that the Democrats can ignore leftists. We should not encourage that sort of entitlement on behalf of the party.
1. i'm talking about the primaries, where you outright choose a leftist
2. if you think "i'm not voting and i'm sending a message to centrist dems":
it doesn't send anyone any message
they just ignore you
and it means you don't care about trans rights, women's rights, voting rights, immigrants, what is going on in iran right now, etc
to pout and sit things out and risk all of that and more "to send a message" is entitled as fuck
nobody cares about people who don't vote
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@miss_rodent @benroyce
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@miss_rodent @benroyce
Thanks for your attempt to confuse Democrats. I will vote Democrat 100%. The other pretend-parties have no chance. Your choice: pretend parties or the party that can lift us out of this darkness.
