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  • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

    What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

    by @ourworldindata

    illetteratolettore@mastodon.unoI This user is from outside of this forum
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    illetteratolettore@mastodon.uno
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    #73

    @infobeautiful @ourworldindata lol, should they tell us about every single person who died of a heart attack or cancer? Of course they focus on non-natural death causes.

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    • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

      What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

      by @ourworldindata

      technicaladept@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #74

      @infobeautiful @ourworldindata more people die every year from falling over in their bath than from terrorism. But start putting cameras in bathrooms and nobody wants to talk about the security aspect.

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      • D drorbedrack@mastodon.social

        @infobeautiful @ourworldindata I get what this is saying, but isnt this the old "man bites dog" issue?
        Of course the media will report sensational, extraordinary things. This is what people want to hear about.
        It's also easier when there are clear villains and victims, and not something abstract like economic forces, infrastructure, or lifestyle.

        michael@westergaard.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #75
        Yes, but that's not the point. The over-reporting will invoke the availability heuristic and recency bias to make people think they are much more likely to die from murder or terror attacks than from being fat.

        This leads to concrete politics where large minorities on each side put an inordinate amount of energy into (discussing) banning brown people or guns, where they should probably focus on regulating processed foods and advertising candy as food to children.
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        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

          What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

          by @ourworldindata

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          #76

          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata Many Americans die from not being able to afford privatised healthcare!!! Let that be a warning to the UK! PEOPLE WITH MED CONDITIONS DON'T VOTE REFORM!! #uninsurable

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          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

            What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

            by @ourworldindata

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            #77

            @infobeautiful @ourworldindata fear sells.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @Bot_Anix @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

              there's stories, not isolated stories, common stories, from nurses and doctors, of MAGA types, in hospitals during COVID, well on their way to death, crying that they don't want to die, and that they will take the vaccine now

              and it has to be explained to them that it is far too late for a vaccine

              and then they die like that

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              @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
              There were such incorrigible fools in Germany too¹. They called themselves "Querdenker" = lateral thinkers, but if they actually thought anything at all, it was dubious and veeery strange.

              ¹ They probably existed everywhere where there were declining² "western culture", a certain level of prosperity, and vaccines.

              ² See Hannah Arendt's quote in the picture below

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              • bot_anix@nrw.socialB bot_anix@nrw.social

                @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                There were such incorrigible fools in Germany too¹. They called themselves "Querdenker" = lateral thinkers, but if they actually thought anything at all, it was dubious and veeery strange.

                ¹ They probably existed everywhere where there were declining² "western culture", a certain level of prosperity, and vaccines.

                ² See Hannah Arendt's quote in the picture below

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                #79

                @Bot_Anix @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                better or worse than reichsburgers 🫩

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @Bot_Anix @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                  better or worse than reichsburgers 🫩

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                  #80

                  @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                  The groups had common ground and some are now even affiliated. It has developed into a dangerous "political" mix, some of whom are only conceptually close to terrorism, while others are also close to it through their actions (or their weapons collection), or have already crossed the line. Perhaps you've heard of the group around the Prinz von Reuss. They were close to putting their coup plan into action.

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                  • bot_anix@nrw.socialB bot_anix@nrw.social

                    @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                    The groups had common ground and some are now even affiliated. It has developed into a dangerous "political" mix, some of whom are only conceptually close to terrorism, while others are also close to it through their actions (or their weapons collection), or have already crossed the line. Perhaps you've heard of the group around the Prinz von Reuss. They were close to putting their coup plan into action.

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                    #81

                    @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                    (It's completely irrelevant now which political camp they identify with. A mix of far-left, far-right, washed-up pop stars/celebrities... awful.)

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                    • bot_anix@nrw.socialB bot_anix@nrw.social

                      @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                      (It's completely irrelevant now which political camp they identify with. A mix of far-left, far-right, washed-up pop stars/celebrities... awful.)

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                      #82

                      @Bot_Anix @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

                      yeah we have these "sovereign citizens" who just make up their own laws. they watch a youtube video or even send some con artist some money, then they think they don't need to follow traffic laws for example

                      their courtroom antics are rather hilarious

                      the power of ego over reality

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        @mloxton 🫂 that's horrible.

                        @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                        #83

                        @alice

                        It sure is sobering that so many families lost people to COVID or gained a disability from it, out of a messed up and misplaced sense of identity and loyalty

                        @benroyce @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata

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                        • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                          What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                          by @ourworldindata

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                          #84

                          @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
                          the COVID stats are not reflecting reality

                          many more continue to die in the ongoing COVID pandemic. often the deaths are described as natural causes or death after a brief or extended illness (Long COVID)

                          organ failure, cancer, and stroke are all common occurrences for those suffering from Long COVID

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                          • infobeautiful@vis.socialI infobeautiful@vis.social

                            What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                            by @ourworldindata

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                            #85

                            @infobeautiful @ourworldindata - I have, many more times than once, explained to foreigners on-line who are afraid to visit the United States because they think they'll be murdered in a mass shooting that: I'm over 50 years old and have never been shot or shot at, don't know anyone who has, and have never observed anyone being shot or shot at, and that the very overwhelming majority of gun deaths are suicides. But hey if they want to believe the media over facts they can look up, it's on them.

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                              What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media

                              by @ourworldindata

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                              @infobeautiful @ourworldindata interesting that the majority of respondents are focused on the diseases rather than the distraction of the media. Should we not educate ourselves to help avoid the bigger threats rather than be drowned in issues of much less importance, like drug overdoses are often front page but insurance denials for many major medical issues are none existent.

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