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@itsfoss set -x in a bash script. Before that, I used a lot of echo statements to debug...
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@itsfoss The existence of Desktop Environments. Would have saved me from distro hopping from one flavor to the next. If I would have known better, I'd have stuck with Linux Mint and just installed it with the XFCE Desktop Environment. Oh well. Now I know better and try to inform new users of them before trying other flavors.
@mrgrumpymonkey @itsfoss One thing that is not clear to me is how and if desktop environments affects how different apps work / or crash on Linux. Talking Xfce, if i change my Ubuntu Gnome DE to Xfce, should all my apps work the same?
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@itsfoss that people who know more about Linux will joke about disastrous commands you can use, but not tell you they are disastrous commands.
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@mrgrumpymonkey @itsfoss One thing that is not clear to me is how and if desktop environments affects how different apps work / or crash on Linux. Talking Xfce, if i change my Ubuntu Gnome DE to Xfce, should all my apps work the same?
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@itsfoss distro-hopping is not a bad thing. It's how you find your one true distro.
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@itsfoss That Omarchy existed
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@itsfoss that the terminal is your friend and window managers are way better than desktop environments.
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@mrgrumpymonkey @ati1 @itsfoss There are alot of ** regarding that.
Teeming and certain features may depend on the DE you have installed and some DE don't follow standards as much as others -
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@itsfoss In Bash: Ctrl+R makes you search through your history, making it MUCH easier to repeat commands.
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@mrgrumpymonkey @ati1 @itsfoss There are alot of ** regarding that.
Teeming and certain features may depend on the DE you have installed and some DE don't follow standards as much as others@_nibbles @mrgrumpymonkey @itsfoss That was my initial feeling that it is only DE/GUI and so things do not change under the hood, or *they shouldn't *BUT...
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@itsfoss How to use the FreeBSD installer.
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@itsfoss Read a book on command line, then use any AI tool however dumb to give you ideas and never believe a word... ask it why, why, why.
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@itsfoss CTRL+R
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@itsfoss The existence of Desktop Environments. Would have saved me from distro hopping from one flavor to the next. If I would have known better, I'd have stuck with Linux Mint and just installed it with the XFCE Desktop Environment. Oh well. Now I know better and try to inform new users of them before trying other flavors.
@mrgrumpymonkey This would indeed save people a lot of time when they are out looking for distros...
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@itsfoss that the terminal is your friend and window managers are way better than desktop environments.
@gibbyspooks lovely
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@itsfoss that people who know more about Linux will joke about disastrous commands you can use, but not tell you they are disastrous commands.
@solderandchaos The naughty ones.
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@itsfoss Teaching yourself how to install and use Linux in the early 90's was very difficult, and there were few resources available to get answers. Today, many distros are practically a forehead install (smack keyboard with forehead and distro installed).
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These tips would not be relevant to me when I was a beginner, rolling my own Gnu/Linux OS in the early 90s. Yet, these are the best tips to give a new user today.
1) There is no best distro (distribution) or best DE (Desktop Environment). There is only the one that is best for you. You will not find it if you do not try them out. It costs nothing to download Live distros and try them out. Do not take someone else's word for it, you choose what it right for you.
2) On a modern distro that would be appropriate for a beginner, one that has a simple installer such as Debian & Fedora flavors you do not have to use the CLI. That is right, it is entirely optional. There is nothing a beginner with basic computer needs requires from the CLI. Modern DE are complete and can manage anything a basic user requires.
with that said yes the CLI can be an awesome tool. I have a terminal opened 99.99% of the time. I am not a beginner or a basic user. The things I do via the CLI are not anything a beginner or basic user would ever need to do. If 90% of your time on your computer is spent playing games, office software, or social media & the web you do not need the CLI. It is a shame that all to many users insist you must learn the CLI and that scares away a lot of users that believe that nonsense. I really wish they would stop.
Have a great day!
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@itsfoss don't delete home directory 🫠🫠
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@itsfoss That there are ways to run EVERYTHING you need and not use Windows as your primary desktop OS. I finally made the switch over to Linux both for work and at-home use several years ago.
For work, there are a few programs that only exist for Windows - for that I run QEMU/KVM and run Windows in a virtual machine. So I guess technically I still have to use Windows, but for 99% of my working day, I am using Linux. For home life? 100% Linux!
