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  • ashleyyrain@mastodon.socialA ashleyyrain@mastodon.social
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    @ashleyyrain
    I'd say probably 90% of anxiety and depression cases are situational. There are people like me who have actual mental issues, so SSRIs are a perfectly valid solution, but I feel like most people don't need them, and the solution is to fix the economy, not drug people up. But of course the former solution doesn't benefit the pharmaceutical industry as much as the latter.

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      @ashleyyrain
      I'd say probably 90% of anxiety and depression cases are situational. There are people like me who have actual mental issues, so SSRIs are a perfectly valid solution, but I feel like most people don't need them, and the solution is to fix the economy, not drug people up. But of course the former solution doesn't benefit the pharmaceutical industry as much as the latter.

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      @Phracker2Art I couldn’t agree more!

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        @ashleyyrain biggest lie capitalism sells you : "you cant buy happyness"

        the second lie it tells you is that said hapiness should come at a cost

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        • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

          @ashleyyrain biggest lie capitalism sells you : "you cant buy happyness"

          the second lie it tells you is that said hapiness should come at a cost

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          @Li @ashleyyrain
          I say if money doesn't make you happy, then why don't the elites just give all of theirs away?

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          • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

            @Li @ashleyyrain
            I say if money doesn't make you happy, then why don't the elites just give all of theirs away?

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            @Phracker2Art @Li exactly! in my case, and so many others, we’re simply just trying to survive. not even shooting for luxury, just the basics to get what we need.

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            • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

              @Li @ashleyyrain
              I say if money doesn't make you happy, then why don't the elites just give all of theirs away?

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              @Phracker2Art @ashleyyrain to be fair here my impression from looking at the likes of the elon musks or bill gates of the world .. is that they aren't actually very happy .. i this meant more like basic necessities being met, but also things meant as entertainment, like music, movies, games, etc; or otherwise to be enjoyable are also offered at a fee- so bleh, its nuanced xS

              .. i would say that money gives you societal power, and lets you have control over others; and like status, and thats probably what most of the elite is actually after ..

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              • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                @ashleyyrain biggest lie capitalism sells you : "you cant buy happyness"

                the second lie it tells you is that said hapiness should come at a cost

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                @Li that part! mental health symptoms would decrease so quickly with increase universal basic income (ubi), instead of paying trillions for more wars, utilizing funds to create housing so that we can eliminate homelessness, etc.
                instead, we’re trap in such terrible economy, jobs being lost, low pay, high gas prices, groceries, bills. it’s ridiculous

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                • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                  @Phracker2Art @ashleyyrain to be fair here my impression from looking at the likes of the elon musks or bill gates of the world .. is that they aren't actually very happy .. i this meant more like basic necessities being met, but also things meant as entertainment, like music, movies, games, etc; or otherwise to be enjoyable are also offered at a fee- so bleh, its nuanced xS

                  .. i would say that money gives you societal power, and lets you have control over others; and like status, and thats probably what most of the elite is actually after ..

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                  @Li @Phracker2Art i agree with you. when I posted this, my thoughts were tailored towards basic necessities so that we can simply survive and have better conditions because this isn’t it

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                  • ashleyyrain@mastodon.socialA ashleyyrain@mastodon.social

                    @Li that part! mental health symptoms would decrease so quickly with increase universal basic income (ubi), instead of paying trillions for more wars, utilizing funds to create housing so that we can eliminate homelessness, etc.
                    instead, we’re trap in such terrible economy, jobs being lost, low pay, high gas prices, groceries, bills. it’s ridiculous

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                    @ashleyyrain you see we 'cant afford it' but we obviously can afford to send cops to brutalize people, and we can spend heaps on blowing people up overseas, and even more on tracking their every location and communications of everyone online, and ....

                    gods can we abolish the state already ffs

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                    • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                      @ashleyyrain you see we 'cant afford it' but we obviously can afford to send cops to brutalize people, and we can spend heaps on blowing people up overseas, and even more on tracking their every location and communications of everyone online, and ....

                      gods can we abolish the state already ffs

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                      @Li yep! we have money for the wars, but we can’t feed the poor

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                      • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                        @ashleyyrain you see we 'cant afford it' but we obviously can afford to send cops to brutalize people, and we can spend heaps on blowing people up overseas, and even more on tracking their every location and communications of everyone online, and ....

                        gods can we abolish the state already ffs

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                        @Li @ashleyyrain
                        Taxation is only theft when that money is used to help people. Then the people being taxed feel worse knowing that someone else just benefited from their tax dollars because they think everything is a zero-sum game. If it's used for violence and brutality, then the people being taxed can still feel like they're getting ahead.

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                        • phracker2art@mstdn.socialP phracker2art@mstdn.social

                          @Li @ashleyyrain
                          Taxation is only theft when that money is used to help people. Then the people being taxed feel worse knowing that someone else just benefited from their tax dollars because they think everything is a zero-sum game. If it's used for violence and brutality, then the people being taxed can still feel like they're getting ahead.

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                          @Phracker2Art @ashleyyrain tbh taxation is theft, in some sense anyawy; and i dont like taxes (i mean fuck capitalism, fuck money in general, fuck paying a subscription to exist and to not have violence committed against you ?) but .. id also rather we steal from the rich and give to the poor, than steal from the poor give to the rich, to murder the poor; i also would rather not have 'money' at all, or at the very least not "super rich" so yknow, in context that makes a bit more sense

                          but yeah it is as you say .. most who say that though are completely fine with all of that shit, specifically want to still have a state and this time it only hurts people, and you still have to pay a subscription to exist, you just pay it only to corporate overloads, instead of state overlords; and well fuck that 🙂

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                            @ashleyyrain @courtcan Can confirm.

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                              @ashleyyrain the GOP is not interested in nurturing a virtuous cycle but rather in maintaining a vicious one more tax cuts for the rich -> more and poorer people-> more desperation and crime -> more prisons, more political grip

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                              • li@tech.lgbtL li@tech.lgbt

                                @ashleyyrain biggest lie capitalism sells you : "you cant buy happyness"

                                the second lie it tells you is that said hapiness should come at a cost

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                                @Li @ashleyyrain Hence " Cost if living"

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                                  @ashleyyrain this. Diagnosis acts to re-situate the problem away from the societal factors that cause it and onto the person who suffers from it, putting the onus on them to deal with. And usually, pressuring the person to change themself to fit the system, rather than changing the system to fit them.

                                  This tends to happen whether or not diagnosis is well-intended. And whether this is formal medicalised diagnosis, or any other system of attaching problem labels to individuals.

                                  There's a reason capitalist systems are really keen on handing out diagnoses.

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                                    @ashleyyrain it makes them easier to manage for sure but sorry, no, they don't disappear

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                                    • fay@lingo.lolF fay@lingo.lol

                                      @ashleyyrain it makes them easier to manage for sure but sorry, no, they don't disappear

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                                      @fay definitely. i am sure whoever made this post isn’t a clinician nor was ever diagnosed with a mental health disorder… thinking more a “figure of speech” (although I’m aware it is not stated here). most folks will draw their own conclusions. my intention of this post is more so about how having access to basic resources can reduce, or as you stated, manage symptoms that can be otherwise be exacerbated.

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                                      • ashleyyrain@mastodon.socialA ashleyyrain@mastodon.social

                                        @fay definitely. i am sure whoever made this post isn’t a clinician nor was ever diagnosed with a mental health disorder… thinking more a “figure of speech” (although I’m aware it is not stated here). most folks will draw their own conclusions. my intention of this post is more so about how having access to basic resources can reduce, or as you stated, manage symptoms that can be otherwise be exacerbated.

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                                        @ashleyyrain @fay just an anecdote, but for me getting a job made my depression go from clinical to subclinical.

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                                          @ashleyyrain @fay just an anecdote, but for me getting a job made my depression go from clinical to subclinical.

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                                          @ashleyyrain@mastodon.social @fay@lingo.lol @bkhl@tilde.zone yea also just an anecdote, but for me all the financial security in the world - while it would help with a lot of stuff - would still leave me completely broken

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