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  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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    • matv1@mastodon.socialM matv1@mastodon.social

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission
      What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

      Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google 😄

      One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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      Javier de la Cueva (@jdelacueva@mastodon.social)

      Attached: 1 image Actions speak louder than words. I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android. Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google. A frontal attack to our #privacy. Stupid, no? @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

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      Mastodon (mastodon.social)

      Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

      Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

      I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

      Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

      Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

      Inputs welcome anyway

      @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

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        #51

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
        Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
        I share your anger.

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        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

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          @jdelacueva @EUCommission 🤪🔨

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          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

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            #53

            @jdelacueva

            Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

            That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

            @EUCommission

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            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

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              #54

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix this… & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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              • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

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                  #56

                  @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if it’s a mobile app, and Linux if it’s a desktop app. (That’s in addition to “regular” Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

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                    #57

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

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                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

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                      • anydr0id@mastodon.socialA anydr0id@mastodon.social

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

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                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. ⏬

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                        • anydr0id@mastodon.socialA anydr0id@mastodon.social

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. ⏬

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                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission All this coupled with the efforts they are making to impose the Chat Control plus the dijital ID (which will surely be a Wallet that will have to pass Play Integrity) at the European level what I see is a totalitarian drift towards the end of Internet privacy throughout the EU

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                          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

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                            @jdelacueva@mastodon.social entire thing about "EU sovereign tech" is to take US tech products and spray EU branding on top.

                            Im also talking about EU OS here lol

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                            • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

                              @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

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                              Please remove the requirement for Google Play Integrity · Issue #287 · eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui

                              The developers of the digital wallet of some member countries such as Italy and France have created the app by implementing the check of the Play Integrity. Probably following the directive contained in the readme of this repo. Given tha...

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                              @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

                              apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

                              the os should be attesting this, not the apps

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                              • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

                                @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

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                                Please remove the requirement for Google Play Integrity · Issue #287 · eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui

                                The developers of the digital wallet of some member countries such as Italy and France have created the app by implementing the check of the Play Integrity. Probably following the directive contained in the readme of this repo. Given tha...

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                                @fruitchypear@owo.cafe @greatlaketrout@noc.social @IvanSanchez@mastodon.social @jdelacueva@mastodon.social this being hosted on github is cherry on top

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                                • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

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                                  @jdelacueva

                                  Works fine on /e/OS however...

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                                  • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                    @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                    I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                    From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                                    @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                    • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                      @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                      @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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                                      • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                        @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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                                        @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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                                        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                          @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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                                          @GOKUSHRM @Scofisticated if the company you work for uses Microsoft or Google enterprise software, then employees don't get a choice.

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