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  3. Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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    @hacks4pancakes

    Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

    I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

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    • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

      @hacks4pancakes
      I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

      Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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      @momo @hacks4pancakes Both.

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      • mndflayr@metalhead.clubM mndflayr@metalhead.club

        @hacks4pancakes

        Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

        I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

        hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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        • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

          @hacks4pancakes
          I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

          Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

          maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @momo @hacks4pancakes The leadership is swayed by the AI $$$. And they're too stupid to conider anything else. At work we've been testing a Claude-based system to remediate mssing alt-text in ebooks, and the results would not make me confident you could use it for targeting. In fact, the opposite of that.

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          • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

            @hacks4pancakes
            I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

            Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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            @momo @hacks4pancakes

            Third option:
            They're cruel and murderous on purpose (Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and the US supports it after all) and initially planned to use AI as plausible denial for PR reasons, but don't because it doesn't make it look any better. Worse, in fact.

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            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

              @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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              @hacks4pancakes
              Its the opposite for me. I drink and I stop knowing things. 😋

              @mndflayr

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                @hacks4pancakes

                To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                • cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC cosmicktrigger@mastodon.social

                  @hacks4pancakes

                  To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                  I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                  @hacks4pancakes

                  We just need to give better training to the LLMs and make them wear body cams

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                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                    Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                    @hacks4pancakes and the smug "military targeters would probably have made the same mistake" makes me think of Chief Wright (Stonekettle Station) who did targeting during the first Gulf War and talked about sleepless nights double-checking intelligence to make sure they didn't kill civilians, and called off attacks when they couldn't be sure, who would have been personally devastated if they learned a missile they launched had killed school-kids. The military structure at the time allowed him to care about such things, but Secretary Kegseth doesn't seem to care or have a soul as far as I can tell.

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                      @hacks4pancakes I don’t, and that probably has brought me in the permanent state that Terry Pratchett once called “knurd”. -5/10 can’t recommend

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        @wendynather @hacks4pancakes seconded

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                        @neurovagrant @wendynather @hacks4pancakes
                        Me three

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                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                          Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                          @hacks4pancakes
                          I wish that would be an energy source…

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                          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                            Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                            @hacks4pancakes on the other side of things, does it provide them less liability if Claude makes the targets? Or more? Possibly shifts liabilities away from admin to AI devs. I mean it shouldn't but I can see them arguing that. Administration's love scapegoats.

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                              @jwi @hacks4pancakes Both are bad. One for giving bad information, the other for using it without checking it.

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