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Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

    Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

    Ed Zitron's posting about limits on AI token use at Microsoft (at Microsoft!!) and I'm hearing stories from other places.

    turns out companies can't afford to go full Gas Town!

    Anyone here getting such directives? "use AI or else! 10x the features! NOW! No, not that much AI! Still 10x the features!"

    kralcttam@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    @davidgerard Yep, at my work for more than a year they’ve been pushing “AI all the things!” And now suddenly we’re hearing OMG the cost!

    lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL davidgerard@circumstances.runD hittitezombie@mastodon.me.ukH a_cubed@mastodon.socialA 4 Replies Last reply
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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

      Ed Zitron's posting about limits on AI token use at Microsoft (at Microsoft!!) and I'm hearing stories from other places.

      turns out companies can't afford to go full Gas Town!

      Anyone here getting such directives? "use AI or else! 10x the features! NOW! No, not that much AI! Still 10x the features!"

      fred@social.fthevenet.euF This user is from outside of this forum
      fred@social.fthevenet.euF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @davidgerard There was never a second when I did not think that it would end up like that. This is pretty much what happened with the cloud just a few years prior, only faster.

      Re: https://social.fthevenet.eu/@fred/statuses/01KJMW8TAV8T0SVXZJQZRQM6K0

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      • kralcttam@mastodon.socialK kralcttam@mastodon.social

        @davidgerard Yep, at my work for more than a year they’ve been pushing “AI all the things!” And now suddenly we’re hearing OMG the cost!

        lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @kralcttam @davidgerard Reminds me a lot of the places that went all in on SaaS a couple of years back, and then complained about their AWS bill.

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        • lu_leipzig@troet.cafeL lu_leipzig@troet.cafe

          @kralcttam @davidgerard Reminds me a lot of the places that went all in on SaaS a couple of years back, and then complained about their AWS bill.

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          @kralcttam @davidgerard Oh turns out @fred already pointed this out 😄

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          • kralcttam@mastodon.socialK kralcttam@mastodon.social

            @davidgerard Yep, at my work for more than a year they’ve been pushing “AI all the things!” And now suddenly we’re hearing OMG the cost!

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            @kralcttam So what's the upshot of this? Are you being told to use less AI but magically produce more features? If you can tell me!

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            • kralcttam@mastodon.socialK kralcttam@mastodon.social

              @davidgerard Yep, at my work for more than a year they’ve been pushing “AI all the things!” And now suddenly we’re hearing OMG the cost!

              hittitezombie@mastodon.me.ukH This user is from outside of this forum
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              @kralcttam @davidgerard

              I've been raising this as a problem in the office all the time - so far I've been told "shut the fuck up and keep using Glean, we've already paid for it"

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

                Ed Zitron's posting about limits on AI token use at Microsoft (at Microsoft!!) and I'm hearing stories from other places.

                turns out companies can't afford to go full Gas Town!

                Anyone here getting such directives? "use AI or else! 10x the features! NOW! No, not that much AI! Still 10x the features!"

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                @davidgerard AI recently apologised for wasting $0.63 at work which made me chuckle.

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  @kralcttam So what's the upshot of this? Are you being told to use less AI but magically produce more features? If you can tell me!

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                  @davidgerard Directives haven’t changed to me. Still AI all the things; I just hear grumbling from above.

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

                    Ed Zitron's posting about limits on AI token use at Microsoft (at Microsoft!!) and I'm hearing stories from other places.

                    turns out companies can't afford to go full Gas Town!

                    Anyone here getting such directives? "use AI or else! 10x the features! NOW! No, not that much AI! Still 10x the features!"

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                    @davidgerard yes 100%. Required use of coding assistant with limited number of monthly tokens.

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                    • kralcttam@mastodon.socialK kralcttam@mastodon.social

                      @davidgerard Yep, at my work for more than a year they’ve been pushing “AI all the things!” And now suddenly we’re hearing OMG the cost!

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                      @kralcttam @davidgerard
                      Wait til the investment bubbleruns out and they have to pay the full whack for it.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        Is there anyone who has to use the chatbot at work who's being told not to use *too many* tokens?

                        Ed Zitron's posting about limits on AI token use at Microsoft (at Microsoft!!) and I'm hearing stories from other places.

                        turns out companies can't afford to go full Gas Town!

                        Anyone here getting such directives? "use AI or else! 10x the features! NOW! No, not that much AI! Still 10x the features!"

                        kentoseth@fosstodon.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @davidgerard

                        I'll posit a very non-tech reason why they may be getting enormous bills without any productivity gains (based on what a corporate person told me on how they use AI - so anecdotal).

                        What people are doing is making AI do dumb tasks to mask away their laziness or sound more professional. Like everyone using AI to reply to emails/messages to get the 'right' corporate tone in replies. Now imagine 10k employees all sending AI emails & replies...

                        Basically waste 🤣

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