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  3. Had a skim through the Nat5, Higher, and Advanced Higher physics exam papers today (roughly age 15, 16, 17 respectively).

Had a skim through the Nat5, Higher, and Advanced Higher physics exam papers today (roughly age 15, 16, 17 respectively).

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  • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Had a skim through the Nat5, Higher, and Advanced Higher physics exam papers today (roughly age 15, 16, 17 respectively). Each had at least one "being a dick" question where needless distractions were introduced. No marks available for spotting the irrelevant stuff, purely there to trip students up. Not sure that's fair. It's not a pub quiz.

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    • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ _thegeoff@mastodon.social

      Had a skim through the Nat5, Higher, and Advanced Higher physics exam papers today (roughly age 15, 16, 17 respectively). Each had at least one "being a dick" question where needless distractions were introduced. No marks available for spotting the irrelevant stuff, purely there to trip students up. Not sure that's fair. It's not a pub quiz.

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      For example, the idea of measuring energy in electron Volts is not covered at one level. Not even mentioned. But the question worded stuff not in eV, but MeV, and then gave a brief MeV to J conversion in brackets, but without even explaining what a "MeV" is. Never mentioned Mega, electrons, or Volts. Might as well have been "Calculate this but in glarmple wotsits per angua, one gw/a is 5.6x10^3J"

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        For example, the idea of measuring energy in electron Volts is not covered at one level. Not even mentioned. But the question worded stuff not in eV, but MeV, and then gave a brief MeV to J conversion in brackets, but without even explaining what a "MeV" is. Never mentioned Mega, electrons, or Volts. Might as well have been "Calculate this but in glarmple wotsits per angua, one gw/a is 5.6x10^3J"

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        And if a student is well read and gives an answer showing they understand what a Mega electron Volt is? No opportunity for extra marks. Purely there to trip people up.

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        • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ _thegeoff@mastodon.social

          And if a student is well read and gives an answer showing they understand what a Mega electron Volt is? No opportunity for extra marks. Purely there to trip people up.

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          @_thegeoff this seems mean and pointless.

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          • icooiey@mastodon.greenI icooiey@mastodon.green

            @_thegeoff this seems mean and pointless.

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            @IcooIey I'm tempted to mention Wheaton's Law in class.

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            • _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ _thegeoff@mastodon.social

              Had a skim through the Nat5, Higher, and Advanced Higher physics exam papers today (roughly age 15, 16, 17 respectively). Each had at least one "being a dick" question where needless distractions were introduced. No marks available for spotting the irrelevant stuff, purely there to trip students up. Not sure that's fair. It's not a pub quiz.

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              @_thegeoff
              You got my vote on that one. I always disliked trick questions and profs who wasted our time on them.

              I learned to teach in the military. Their mantra still sticks with me.

              Tell em what you're gonna tell em (introduce the lesson).

              Tell em (teach the lesson).

              Tell em what you told em (summarize what was taught).

              Nothing in that technique about trick questions.

              _thegeoff@mastodon.social_ die_mad@beige.partyD ryencode@mstdn.caR 3 Replies Last reply
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              • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                @_thegeoff
                You got my vote on that one. I always disliked trick questions and profs who wasted our time on them.

                I learned to teach in the military. Their mantra still sticks with me.

                Tell em what you're gonna tell em (introduce the lesson).

                Tell em (teach the lesson).

                Tell em what you told em (summarize what was taught).

                Nothing in that technique about trick questions.

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                @stargazersmith Yeah, the time for trick questions, if any, is when they're out of the classroom, thinking on their feet, and there's a genuinely funny lesson to learn. And I can do that, because I'm very specifically not a teacher. Staff sergeant in your analogy, maybe.
                And ditto the pub quiz thing - trick questions are great there as there's no great consequence other than a funny A-Ha! moment.

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                • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                  @_thegeoff
                  You got my vote on that one. I always disliked trick questions and profs who wasted our time on them.

                  I learned to teach in the military. Their mantra still sticks with me.

                  Tell em what you're gonna tell em (introduce the lesson).

                  Tell em (teach the lesson).

                  Tell em what you told em (summarize what was taught).

                  Nothing in that technique about trick questions.

                  die_mad@beige.partyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @stargazersmith @_thegeoff Same in the appellate Courts. Tell them what you are going to tell them. Tell them what you need them to hear. Tell them what you said.

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                  • stargazersmith@social.linux.pizzaS stargazersmith@social.linux.pizza

                    @_thegeoff
                    You got my vote on that one. I always disliked trick questions and profs who wasted our time on them.

                    I learned to teach in the military. Their mantra still sticks with me.

                    Tell em what you're gonna tell em (introduce the lesson).

                    Tell em (teach the lesson).

                    Tell em what you told em (summarize what was taught).

                    Nothing in that technique about trick questions.

                    ryencode@mstdn.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @stargazersmith @_thegeoff
                    It's very good in corporate communications, news articles, pamphlets on , and in general discussion.
                    This along side the "Truth Sandwich" are super effective methods of studying knowledge.

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