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  3. Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year?

Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year?

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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    Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

    And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

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    Bluesky's 2025 $100M Series B Lays Foundation for Open Social Web - Bluesky

    In April 2025, Bluesky raised $100 million in Series B funding led by Bain Capital Crypto. Since our Series A, we've grown from 13 million to over 43 million global users.

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    Bluesky (bsky.social)

    How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

    #Bluesky

    mat@zelk.spaceM _elena@mastodon.social_ leberschnitzel@existiert.chL theriac@plasmatrap.comT benjamimsilva@social.vivaldi.netB 13 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

      And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

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      Bluesky's 2025 $100M Series B Lays Foundation for Open Social Web - Bluesky

      In April 2025, Bluesky raised $100 million in Series B funding led by Bain Capital Crypto. Since our Series A, we've grown from 13 million to over 43 million global users.

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      Bluesky (bsky.social)

      How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

      #Bluesky

      mat@zelk.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
      mat@zelk.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
      mat@zelk.space
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      @_elena are you aware that any record is public on atproto and checkable on pds.ls? there's nothing new .....

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

        And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

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        Bluesky's 2025 $100M Series B Lays Foundation for Open Social Web - Bluesky

        In April 2025, Bluesky raised $100 million in Series B funding led by Bain Capital Crypto. Since our Series A, we've grown from 13 million to over 43 million global users.

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        Bluesky (bsky.social)

        How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

        #Bluesky

        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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        _elena@mastodon.social
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        Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

        But something is fishy.

        Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

        Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

        Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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        wtl@mastodon.socialW wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW patpro@social.patpro.netP 707kat@mastodon.art7 ikuturso@mastodon.socialI 21 Replies Last reply
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        • mat@zelk.spaceM mat@zelk.space

          @_elena are you aware that any record is public on atproto and checkable on pds.ls? there's nothing new .....

          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mat sure but it's the language they used that creeped me out - it's like they are using this as a selling point for VCs to say: here, collect all these data

          mat@zelk.spaceM ulrikehahn@fediscience.orgU 2 Replies Last reply
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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

            But something is fishy.

            Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

            Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

            Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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            wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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            wtl@mastodon.social
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            @_elena Very sketchy behaviour, for certain.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

              But something is fishy.

              Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

              Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

              Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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              wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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              @_elena Yea. I’m hopefully that projects like Blacksky can completely break free of Bluesky, but being ignorant of how the tech works I worry there’s some kind of rug pull to come

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                But something is fishy.

                Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                patpro@social.patpro.netP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @_elena Bain Capital Crypto is involved in the European project supposed to create an alternative to GitHub. Super red flag, I think.
                https://goodtech.info/tangled-levee-fonds-alternative-open-source-github/

                ikuturso@mastodon.socialI _elena@mastodon.social_ 2 Replies Last reply
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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

                  And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

                  Link Preview Image
                  Bluesky's 2025 $100M Series B Lays Foundation for Open Social Web - Bluesky

                  In April 2025, Bluesky raised $100 million in Series B funding led by Bain Capital Crypto. Since our Series A, we've grown from 13 million to over 43 million global users.

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                  Bluesky (bsky.social)

                  How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

                  #Bluesky

                  leberschnitzel@existiert.chL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  leberschnitzel@existiert.ch
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                  @_elena I mean, I run a mastodon, I'd surely not forget to disclose that!

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                    But something is fishy.

                    Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                    Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                    Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                    707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @_elena And this is how I find out that he's on their board. 😅

                    Even if Bsky themselves and some of their staff actions didn't raise alarms from the get go for me. The fact that they are located in the US under current administration and the lack of autonomy does.

                    I'm happy I finally took the plunge and made them my back up social media and Mastodon my primary. I like some of the utility over there, but it's already doing the spiral I watched Twitter doing before leaving there.

                    _elena@mastodon.social_ erikcats@dice.campE 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                      But something is fishy.

                      Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                      Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                      Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                      ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @_elena it's insane to think people would believe this "explanation"...

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                      • patpro@social.patpro.netP patpro@social.patpro.net

                        @_elena Bain Capital Crypto is involved in the European project supposed to create an alternative to GitHub. Super red flag, I think.
                        https://goodtech.info/tangled-levee-fonds-alternative-open-source-github/

                        ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @patpro that's another project that is building on Bluesky (ATproto) so even without the funding not being so european now it already has dependencies to the US platform and I guess BCC funding both it and Bluesky is not suprising when they are part of the same ecosystem...
                        @_elena

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @mat sure but it's the language they used that creeped me out - it's like they are using this as a selling point for VCs to say: here, collect all these data

                          mat@zelk.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @_elena permissive data/spaces is coming this year, and you can use E2EE messaging germ using your pds. if you want to delete any data, you can just connect to pds.ls and delete any record you want (e.g. all your likes, comments, etc)

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                          • wonkothesane@mstdn.socialW wonkothesane@mstdn.social

                            @_elena Yea. I’m hopefully that projects like Blacksky can completely break free of Bluesky, but being ignorant of how the tech works I worry there’s some kind of rug pull to come

                            ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @wonkothesane well when the userbase is mostly on Bluesky and likely to stay there I don't really see the ability to completely break free as very realistic. It's also true their retained control absolutely allows them to rug pull no matter how many times they say "credible exit".

                            @_elena

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                              But something is fishy.

                              Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                              Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                              Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                              markmetz@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @_elena
                              Thanks for highlighting this.
                              Bsky smells of narrative capture to me, much like Substack, (who are now teaming up with prediction markets)

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                                @_elena
                                Thanks for highlighting this.
                                Bsky smells of narrative capture to me, much like Substack, (who are now teaming up with prediction markets)

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @markmetz 🎯 you nailed it (at least, that's my interpretation, too)

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                                • patpro@social.patpro.netP patpro@social.patpro.net

                                  @_elena Bain Capital Crypto is involved in the European project supposed to create an alternative to GitHub. Super red flag, I think.
                                  https://goodtech.info/tangled-levee-fonds-alternative-open-source-github/

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                                  @patpro I didn't know this and... yikes. Thanks for sharing this

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                                  • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

                                    @_elena And this is how I find out that he's on their board. 😅

                                    Even if Bsky themselves and some of their staff actions didn't raise alarms from the get go for me. The fact that they are located in the US under current administration and the lack of autonomy does.

                                    I'm happy I finally took the plunge and made them my back up social media and Mastodon my primary. I like some of the utility over there, but it's already doing the spiral I watched Twitter doing before leaving there.

                                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @707Kat this is the way! (Mastodon as primary and Bluesky as backup) 🙌

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Mike Masnick, who sits on the board of #Bluesky, claims the team was too busy to announce the series B funding (see screenshot).

                                      But something is fishy.

                                      Even the VC firm - Bain Capital Crypto - isn't listing Bluesky anywhere on their website: https://baincapitalcrypto.com/portfolio/

                                      Why the mystery? Was Bluesky afraid of a public backlash & asked to keep the information under wraps?

                                      Sorry if I keep repeating myself but I will forever be skeptical of Bluesky and think of the tale of the scorpion and the frog.

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                                      tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @_elena all the startups I've worked for have blasted out press releases the moment their funding rounds closed. Part of being a startup means constantly vying for attention. This explanation does not hold up.

                                      wjmaggos@liberal.cityW abucci@buc.ciA hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH 3 Replies Last reply
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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Can you imagine Mastodon raising 100 MILLION dollars from a crypto VC fund and failing to disclose it... for a full year? No I can't either.

                                        And from their actual press release: "The Atmosphere currently contains about 20 billion public records—the posts, likes, comments and other interactions that bring the ecosystem to life. It's an astonishing collection of what open social infrastructure makes possible."

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Bluesky's 2025 $100M Series B Lays Foundation for Open Social Web - Bluesky

                                        In April 2025, Bluesky raised $100 million in Series B funding led by Bain Capital Crypto. Since our Series A, we've grown from 13 million to over 43 million global users.

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                                        Bluesky (bsky.social)

                                        How I read it: data harvesting at its finest 💁‍♀️

                                        #Bluesky

                                        theriac@plasmatrap.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @_elena@mastodon.social
                                        Just out of interest - any of the bluesky-bridged-to-fediverse accounts posting about this?

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @patpro I didn't know this and... yikes. Thanks for sharing this

                                          ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @_elena @patpro Indeed, but do we need a European SlopHub if @Codeberg already exists?

                                          patpro@social.patpro.netP otfrom@functional.cafeO 2 Replies Last reply
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