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  • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jan@social.dytrych.cloud

    @_elena regarding LLMs, it's crazy from developers' perspective. BIG tech is pushing LLMs hard to developers, saying you'll lose job or will be paid less if not using LLMs. That's what they are pushing, my colleague did even said "If you're not going to use it, you'll lose job or will be paid less." My boss doesn't like to use LLM for development, so far so good, but there is huge push and pressure towards it.

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    #18

    @jan ouf that's rough. I personally know a lot of people in this space - here in France - and it's really rough out there. Not to mention the collapsing valuation of most software start-ups since early 2025 (US politics + Claude + geopolitical tensions = lethal mix)

    jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ 2 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

      Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

      Do you have any recommendations?

      So far, at the top of my list I have:

      @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

      plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

      Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

      A This user is from outside of this forum
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      argue_right875@mastodon.social
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      @_elena how to create topical feed?

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        konform@techhub.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
        konform@techhub.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
        konform@techhub.social
        wrote last edited by
        #20

        @_elena https://shrimp.starlightnet.work/@the/posts/ajkajgdut0e60njf

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          @jan ouf that's rough. I personally know a lot of people in this space - here in France - and it's really rough out there. Not to mention the collapsing valuation of most software start-ups since early 2025 (US politics + Claude + geopolitical tensions = lethal mix)

          jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          jan@social.dytrych.cloud
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          #21

          @_elena yes, it will be very rough few years. Will see how that goes. This will make us developers dump and highly dependent to LLMs in cloud owned by some company in US.

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          • A argue_right875@mastodon.social

            @_elena how to create topical feed?

            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            _elena@mastodon.social
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            #22

            @argue_right875 as usual, @FediTips to the rescue: https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-the-lists-feature-on-mastodon/

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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              trezzer@social.linux.pizza
              wrote last edited by
              #23

              @_elena Here's an article you'll probably, enjoy, though, even if it's in Danish (but I know you know your way around that πŸ˜‰ ) https://videnskab.dk/kultur-samfund/ai-i-valgkampen-hjaelper-det-kandidater-eller-skraemmer-det-vaelgerne-vaek/

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                davidgerard@circumstances.run
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                #24

                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante also @kimcrawley of https://stopgenai.com

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                • konform@techhub.socialK konform@techhub.social

                  @_elena https://shrimp.starlightnet.work/@the/posts/ajkajgdut0e60njf

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                  @konform thank you!

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                    Do you have any recommendations?

                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                    petersommerlad@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante

                    me?

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                    • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                      @_elena I wish we'd have CW for both sides, because I really don't want to hear more from either. Enough has been said to make up minds, and now it just seems like an infinite echo that is slowly driving me mad.

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                      _elena@mastodon.social
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                      @trezzer understood. Sorry I should have put my post behind a CW (too late now) πŸ₯²

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        @jan ouf that's rough. I personally know a lot of people in this space - here in France - and it's really rough out there. Not to mention the collapsing valuation of most software start-ups since early 2025 (US politics + Claude + geopolitical tensions = lethal mix)

                        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
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                        @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @trezzer understood. Sorry I should have put my post behind a CW (too late now) πŸ₯²

                          trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @_elena No worries. It only helps if it becomes a norm anyway, and I think others will appreciate what you are doing. ❀

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            @_elena Film idea: "Back to the roots". They meet in secret. In coding dojos. They write code by hand. They have ancient books, real books, printed, with names like "Assembly Guide for the x86 ISA", "High Performance Python" that are sacred bibles of ancient knowledge. Follow our hero as she goes from LLM withdrawal to changing the world with hand-written code that frees the minds of millions. @jan

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @jwildeboer haha I LOVE this! πŸ₯°

                            also adding you to the list of course!

                            @jan

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                            • 707kat@mastodon.art7 707kat@mastodon.art

                              @onepunchmango EFF is not against LLMs.

                              Removed the pluralistic part.

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                              @707Kat they argue and explain heavily against their usage and limitations in most things, and eloquently so. It's a good way both to keep up with* recent developments, learn, and get the vocabluary to talk about it with other people.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                efialto@mastodon.onlineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante On Spanish @arteesetica @tunubesecamirio

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                                • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                                  @_elena Here's an article you'll probably, enjoy, though, even if it's in Danish (but I know you know your way around that πŸ˜‰ ) https://videnskab.dk/kultur-samfund/ai-i-valgkampen-hjaelper-det-kandidater-eller-skraemmer-det-vaelgerne-vaek/

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                                  #33

                                  @trezzer thank you, I really appreciate!

                                  I need to go pick up my little one from daycare but I will read it ASAP (just saved it to my Linkwarden) πŸ€—

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante also @kimcrawley of https://stopgenai.com

                                    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

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                                    • jan@social.dytrych.cloudJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @_elena thank you! πŸ™‚

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                                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                        Dear Fedi friends,

                                        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                        Do you have any recommendations?

                                        So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                        kawunngg@mastoart.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        kawunngg@mastoart.social
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                                        #36

                                        @_elena

                                        I feel like artists like @davidrevoy should be on the list too πŸ™‚

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                                        • trezzer@social.linux.pizzaT trezzer@social.linux.pizza

                                          @_elena No worries. It only helps if it becomes a norm anyway, and I think others will appreciate what you are doing. ❀

                                          _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @trezzer I feel really bad because I use CW super frequently.

                                          Sorry it didn't occur to me for this post but I will use CW from now on...

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