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  3. Checked FB today and saw a friend post this... I have never before seen her comment on AI...

Checked FB today and saw a friend post this... I have never before seen her comment on AI...

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    Checked FB today and saw a friend post this... I have never before seen her comment on AI...

    I have never seen a friend comment: wow, copilot, ChatGPT or any other LLM really makes my life easier or increased my productivity...
    #AI #llm #copilot

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      Checked FB today and saw a friend post this... I have never before seen her comment on AI...

      I have never seen a friend comment: wow, copilot, ChatGPT or any other LLM really makes my life easier or increased my productivity...
      #AI #llm #copilot

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      @carstenfranke
      I've been on the receiving end of corporate training on Copilot and it's all about using it for research and organising notes and generating information: all things it's risky to use for because what it does well is be plausible and confident, not necessarily correct. Usually, it ends up wasting more time correcting it, working out prompt libraries. And if you're lucky, the result is.... fine.

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        @carstenfranke
        I've been on the receiving end of corporate training on Copilot and it's all about using it for research and organising notes and generating information: all things it's risky to use for because what it does well is be plausible and confident, not necessarily correct. Usually, it ends up wasting more time correcting it, working out prompt libraries. And if you're lucky, the result is.... fine.

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        @carstenfranke
        Where I've seen it work reliably, it's always off the back of utter nerds who know processes and automations really well. The very unsexy stuff that can't be taught in a 30-min lunch-and-learn session.

        They might eat through the company Copilot credits fast, but that use case never be enough to recoup the investment in it. Hence the need to convince upper/middle management that people can't even sum a column in Excel without it.

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          @carstenfranke
          I've been on the receiving end of corporate training on Copilot and it's all about using it for research and organising notes and generating information: all things it's risky to use for because what it does well is be plausible and confident, not necessarily correct. Usually, it ends up wasting more time correcting it, working out prompt libraries. And if you're lucky, the result is.... fine.

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          @Rhodium103 that is what I hear a lot, it is convincingly wrong and you constantly have to question every output. That just does not sound like fun. Luckily I left the corporate world 10 years ago and in my little company I keep everything AI free.

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            @carstenfranke
            Where I've seen it work reliably, it's always off the back of utter nerds who know processes and automations really well. The very unsexy stuff that can't be taught in a 30-min lunch-and-learn session.

            They might eat through the company Copilot credits fast, but that use case never be enough to recoup the investment in it. Hence the need to convince upper/middle management that people can't even sum a column in Excel without it.

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            @Rhodium103 I saw a report that for every $1 the AI providers collect in fees, they have a compute cost of $8 to $13... So at some point the price for copilot or similar will go up a lot. Maybe a factor 15x. Not sure if any company is willing to pay that. When I was in a corporate lab years ago it was a big deal to get $400 for an annual license for a special CAD software... Not sure if they are willing to pay that kind of money and more for every employee...

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              @Rhodium103 I saw a report that for every $1 the AI providers collect in fees, they have a compute cost of $8 to $13... So at some point the price for copilot or similar will go up a lot. Maybe a factor 15x. Not sure if any company is willing to pay that. When I was in a corporate lab years ago it was a big deal to get $400 for an annual license for a special CAD software... Not sure if they are willing to pay that kind of money and more for every employee...

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              @carstenfranke
              MS is about to rug pull the actually-useful "AI Builder" connector and roll it into Copilot itself, which will be about a 10x price increase. The response I saw was "meh, it wasn't a mission critical process anyway".

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