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“Most people seem to have no idea he’s wearing anything other than normal eyeglasses.”

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  • photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @neonsnake @urlyman
    Meta, BTW, are well-known to be vile and pleased by it.
    Bad people do bad things.
    Good people much less often, and usually less bad things.

    Look to the other crimes of the bad people, not focus on equipment.

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    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

      @Photo55 my post is a polemic, a metaphor. I make no apology for it.

      I also tend to think that Go-Pros on cycle helmets are a bad idea

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      @urlyman oh well, that's all right then, as would be any consequences to others.

      Metaphor?
      I'm recall someone claiming that a fork is a metaphor. For a fork.
      It didn't seem to me a useful use of language. #metaphork

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      • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

        @urlyman oh well, that's all right then, as would be any consequences to others.

        Metaphor?
        I'm recall someone claiming that a fork is a metaphor. For a fork.
        It didn't seem to me a useful use of language. #metaphork

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        @Photo55 We disagree. My choice of word is multi-layered. You don’t like it. That’s fine

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          @Photo55 We disagree. My choice of word is multi-layered. You don’t like it. That’s fine

          photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @urlyman ah yes. Alice in Wonderland covered that.

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          • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

            @rachel @urlyman
            I of course believe anything you tell me.
            Except that violence means recording the appearance of someone.

            rachel@norfolk.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            @Photo55 @urlyman more a case of context, as is always the case.
            Photography in a public place, fair enough (and, indeed, protected in law). Photography likely to create a fear of harm, such as taking video of someone where they would normally expect privacy, is assault. Always has been.

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            • rachel@norfolk.socialR rachel@norfolk.social

              @Photo55 @urlyman more a case of context, as is always the case.
              Photography in a public place, fair enough (and, indeed, protected in law). Photography likely to create a fear of harm, such as taking video of someone where they would normally expect privacy, is assault. Always has been.

              photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @rachel @urlyman but covert photography with a concealed device is the opposite of deliberately creating fear, isn't it.

              There are other laws, which are accurately applicable, and less confusionable.

              Here.

              "See this spanner, I'm going to hit you with it unless you {do thing: refrain from assaulting me with contrary opinions?? 😉 }" is assault, or may be - IANAL - but "{silence}" {invisible spanner} {absence of condition} might be many bad things, but doesn't seem to be assault.

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              • photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                @neonsnake
                #Photography : are you old enough to remember #TLR s?
                But yes, street photographers have tended to use 35mm range finder cameras before the #SLR was common, and after.
                And plate cameras before that. Almost as conspicuous as a painter.

                If asked what they are doing, saying "Art" seems to still go down quite well, as well as being true.

                Round here people are slightly interested and moderately helpful. As one should be.
                In Yangon, in the happy gap, they were rather pleased. #people

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                • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                  @rachel @urlyman but covert photography with a concealed device is the opposite of deliberately creating fear, isn't it.

                  There are other laws, which are accurately applicable, and less confusionable.

                  Here.

                  "See this spanner, I'm going to hit you with it unless you {do thing: refrain from assaulting me with contrary opinions?? 😉 }" is assault, or may be - IANAL - but "{silence}" {invisible spanner} {absence of condition} might be many bad things, but doesn't seem to be assault.

                  rachel@norfolk.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Photo55 @urlyman I guess the only way we will know if if it ends up in court and, to be honest, I hope it never needs to be

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                  • rachel@norfolk.socialR rachel@norfolk.social

                    @Photo55 @urlyman I guess the only way we will know if if it ends up in court and, to be honest, I hope it never needs to be

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                    @rachel @urlyman I'd suggest chasing them for other crimes and torts.
                    Or decide their conduct has disturbed the peace and hit them with the spanner. (This is not legal advice, but if Police find themselves involved that Common Law offence might well be deployed. Not spanners though.)

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                    • photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @neonsnake I have an inherited TLR but have never taken a photo with it.
                      Of modern cameras the ones with hinged rear screens can be hung in a similar way. I prefer to hold it up, generally.
                      Street isn't really my thing, but there's occasionally something.

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                      • photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @neonsnake I have lots of bad ones ;(
                        That last one was a careful lining up on Queen St at the end of lockdown, and then that processionary interaction happened. Unplanned, not really even waiting for a significant moment, but it arrived!

                        Myanmar was too hot for me to be clever. Visiting family.

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                        • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                          @urlyman (not very different from a GoPro on one's cycling helmet, actually. And on that, I don't really like hard objects on protective hats, which can be force concentrators. Burying it in the shell could be safer.)

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                          @Photo55 @urlyman so you don't think that the generally-pretty-visible nature of GoPro cameras mounted on helmets makes them fundamentally different to a camera surreptitiously embedded in glasses frames?

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                          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                            …Meta Ray-Bans are a form of assault

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                            @urlyman i wouldnt say assault.

                            Its worse than assault, by a long shot.

                            A punch in the face leaves a black eye for a week. This invasion of humanity wrecks a human for years or decades.

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