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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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    In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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    @nixCraft I was kidding when I said all the resent cloud outages was because of vibe coding/AI use. I guess reality really is a joke.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      So this wasn't some startup moving fast. This was Amazon, one of the biggest tech companies and their own AI coding tool still managed to take down a prod for 13 hours and it happened multiple times? If they can't get the this stupid AI stuff right the rest of the world should probably think twice on giving these AI tools write access to database, cloud, email and IT . Of course, Amazon is motivated to make more money by firing devs/IT staff and they think it is the next big thing. LOL

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      #5

      @nixCraft
      They are fucking idiots
      OR
      They don't give a shit about losing a lot of money if they can save it firing people. Trial and error.
      They can afford it

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        So this wasn't some startup moving fast. This was Amazon, one of the biggest tech companies and their own AI coding tool still managed to take down a prod for 13 hours and it happened multiple times? If they can't get the this stupid AI stuff right the rest of the world should probably think twice on giving these AI tools write access to database, cloud, email and IT . Of course, Amazon is motivated to make more money by firing devs/IT staff and they think it is the next big thing. LOL

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        @nixCraft Deploy directly on prod.

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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          Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

          At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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          In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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          @nixCraft hahahahahahaha get fucked.

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          • txalvita@neopaquita.esT txalvita@neopaquita.es

            @nixCraft
            They are fucking idiots
            OR
            They don't give a shit about losing a lot of money if they can save it firing people. Trial and error.
            They can afford it

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            #8

            @txalvita @nixCraft It's simple, they loose more money durint this 13h that they saved with the employers that fired. I expect not yet... also will be nice to know when they allowed the AI full access. it was 1 year ago. or only some weeks ago

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            • christianrickert@23.socialC christianrickert@23.social

              @nixCraft

              Handing write privileges to an AI is like handing a loaded gun to a drunk person.

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              @christianrickert @nixCraft More like handing your air traffic control over to a well trained parrot.

              To me, the parrot sounds like an ATC operator. You could play it on a news broadcast or a press release and it’ll sound just fine to anybody who isn’t an ATC operator or pilot.

              Now let’s imagine what happens when a plane is given permission to land on runway 13 and another is given permission to land on runway 31.

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              • txalvita@neopaquita.esT txalvita@neopaquita.es

                @nixCraft
                They are fucking idiots
                OR
                They don't give a shit about losing a lot of money if they can save it firing people. Trial and error.
                They can afford it

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                @txalvita @nixCraft I don't think people who would implement the AI agent with access to the production environment and people who decide that firing people is a feasible way of reducing the cost are anywhere near each other, it's a little bit more complicated than that

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                  Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                  At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                  In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                  @nixCraft If AWS managed to destroy its dominance in the Cloud hosting market purely because it was trying to chase something around AI... well... let's just say I'm sure there's a German word for it.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    So this wasn't some startup moving fast. This was Amazon, one of the biggest tech companies and their own AI coding tool still managed to take down a prod for 13 hours and it happened multiple times? If they can't get the this stupid AI stuff right the rest of the world should probably think twice on giving these AI tools write access to database, cloud, email and IT . Of course, Amazon is motivated to make more money by firing devs/IT staff and they think it is the next big thing. LOL

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                    @nixCraft *another* reason to get stuff away from there

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                    • eickot@mastodon.socialE eickot@mastodon.social

                      @txalvita @nixCraft It's simple, they loose more money durint this 13h that they saved with the employers that fired. I expect not yet... also will be nice to know when they allowed the AI full access. it was 1 year ago. or only some weeks ago

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                      @eickot @txalvita @nixCraft do they?

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                      • C clickymcticker@hachyderm.io

                        @christianrickert @nixCraft More like handing your air traffic control over to a well trained parrot.

                        To me, the parrot sounds like an ATC operator. You could play it on a news broadcast or a press release and it’ll sound just fine to anybody who isn’t an ATC operator or pilot.

                        Now let’s imagine what happens when a plane is given permission to land on runway 13 and another is given permission to land on runway 31.

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                        @ClickyMcTicker @nixCraft

                        Yeah, but your average parrot is not going to shuffle the layout of the runways while squawking to the pilots. 🦜

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          So this wasn't some startup moving fast. This was Amazon, one of the biggest tech companies and their own AI coding tool still managed to take down a prod for 13 hours and it happened multiple times? If they can't get the this stupid AI stuff right the rest of the world should probably think twice on giving these AI tools write access to database, cloud, email and IT . Of course, Amazon is motivated to make more money by firing devs/IT staff and they think it is the next big thing. LOL

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                          @nixCraft don't use any US crap anymore so they can break it all they want not my problem anymore.

                          If they could delete every server of amazon... it would bring back job i guess.

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                            Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                            At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                            In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                            @nixCraft having used AWS for years, I know exactly why it decided to do that XD

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              So this wasn't some startup moving fast. This was Amazon, one of the biggest tech companies and their own AI coding tool still managed to take down a prod for 13 hours and it happened multiple times? If they can't get the this stupid AI stuff right the rest of the world should probably think twice on giving these AI tools write access to database, cloud, email and IT . Of course, Amazon is motivated to make more money by firing devs/IT staff and they think it is the next big thing. LOL

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                              @nixCraft it's all about virtue signaling, I'm afraid.

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                              • txalvita@neopaquita.esT txalvita@neopaquita.es

                                @nixCraft
                                They are fucking idiots
                                OR
                                They don't give a shit about losing a lot of money if they can save it firing people. Trial and error.
                                They can afford it

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                                @txalvita @nixCraft it’s the second one. They don’t give a shit.

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                                  @nixCraft

                                  Handing write privileges to an AI is like handing a loaded gun to a drunk person.

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                                  @christianrickert And what happened to staging? @nixCraft

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                                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                    Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                                    Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                                    At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                                    In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                                    @nixCraft Seems it was trained on the infamous IBM ad "have you tried turning it off and on again?".
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                                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                      Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                                      Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                                      At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                                      In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                                      @nixCraft This is fueling an unprecedented fear of flying in me. I’m constantly terrified of corporate ghouls deciding to let loose a text-based slot machine in aircraft’s codebases just to save money or whatever stakeholder pleasing shit.

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                                        Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                                        At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                                        In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                                        Amazlop? Colour me surprised.

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                                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                          Amazon service (AWS) was taken down by AI coding bot named Kiro

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                                          Amazon's Blundering AI Caused Multiple AWS Outages

                                          At least two outages at Amazon Web Services occurred after one of the company's AI models made changes to code.

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                                          In one incident in December, engineers at AWS allowed its in-house Kiro “agentic” coding tool to make changes that sparked a 13-hour disruption, according to four sources familiar with the matter. The AI, ill-fatedly, had decided to “delete and recreate the environment,” the sources said.

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                                          @nixCraft@mastodon.social
                                          Of course the AI decided to delete and recreate it.
                                          It always does.😅
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