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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

    Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

    To think the www was built for people.

    And here we are

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    Even faster now.

    Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.

    To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.

    Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,

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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      Even faster now.

      Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.

      To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.

      Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,

      ned@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #84

      @JulianOliver Just gonna set up a fail2ban jail with that list as a log.

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      • ned@tech.lgbtN ned@tech.lgbt

        @JulianOliver Just gonna set up a fail2ban jail with that list as a log.

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        #85

        @ned Sweet, lock the bastards out.

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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          @ned Sweet, lock the bastards out.

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          #86

          @JulianOliver Oh I have. Though, I'm seeing a lot less bot traffic since I made the first (hidden) link on my site a link to your tarpit.

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            @falken Great, on the list for today. ETA 6hrs. Thanks again!

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            #87

            @falken You're live!

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              @diagram_studies Hah, superb. I'll get onto this today. Thanks a lot!

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              #88

              @diagram_studies You're live!

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              • smn@l3ib.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #89

                @JulianOliver done. whatthefuckisgoingonwithmyhorroscope.today now has those records, at least until the domain expires on April 27 2027

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                • ned@tech.lgbtN ned@tech.lgbt

                  @JulianOliver Oh I have. Though, I'm seeing a lot less bot traffic since I made the first (hidden) link on my site a link to your tarpit.

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                  Hi @ned @JulianOliver,
                  thanks for the ๐Ÿ noodle recipe, I'll do likewise with ๐Ÿฅ• carrots.

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                    Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                    To think the www was built for people.

                    And here we are

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                    #91

                    @JulianOliver Seriously tempted to build an installation piece based on this, where the machine is a working tarpit, and a large display visualizes the activity of AI crawlers request by request. Possibly with sonification too.

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                    • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

                      @JulianOliver Seriously tempted to build an installation piece based on this, where the machine is a working tarpit, and a large display visualizes the activity of AI crawlers request by request. Possibly with sonification too.

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                      #92

                      @twilliability Yes I was thinking of just the same, dual projection.

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        @twilliability Yes I was thinking of just the same, dual projection.

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                        #93

                        @twilliability Relatedly, I'm working on a means to capture the shell log output to a streaming endpoint while allowing plenty of bandwidth for existing bot traffic. Not as easy at it may seem!

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          @twilliability Relatedly, I'm working on a means to capture the shell log output to a streaming endpoint while allowing plenty of bandwidth for existing bot traffic. Not as easy at it may seem!

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                          @twilliability P.S. I was not considering sonification, rather just a projection piece.

                          IMO while plugging into Pure Data, Supercollider etc might seem interesting I honestly think that the rate a properly setup tarpit works you'd practically end up with gabba, or something akin to barely textured noise. If you were monitoring TCP traffic directly, sonifying on Layer 4 or even Layer 3 giving auditory identity to endpoint IPs, it would be pretty intense!

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                            If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Science is Poetry

                            favicon

                            (julianoliver.com)

                            #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                            @JulianOliver

                            Cute idea.
                            Entirely useless.
                            Feed a "Ai trap" page to Ai and see what happens...

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              @twilliability P.S. I was not considering sonification, rather just a projection piece.

                              IMO while plugging into Pure Data, Supercollider etc might seem interesting I honestly think that the rate a properly setup tarpit works you'd practically end up with gabba, or something akin to barely textured noise. If you were monitoring TCP traffic directly, sonifying on Layer 4 or even Layer 3 giving auditory identity to endpoint IPs, it would be pretty intense!

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                              @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage ๐Ÿ™‚ it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

                              screen is easier, lots of pixels

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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                Even faster now.

                                Again, these pages are randomly generated, and each line is a page request from a crawler.

                                To think of the energy expended at a global scale, the waste. All the money, water & minerals thrown at this. These AI companies are near DoS'ing the human web as they deep-sea trawl our content.

                                Computationally, infrastructurally, & culturally, it's an obscenity,

                                elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #97

                                @JulianOliver

                                Are you still looking for domains?

                                Somehow www.qaz.red is pointing at 95.216.76.85. Should I add an AAAA record, too?

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                                • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

                                  @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage ๐Ÿ™‚ it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

                                  screen is easier, lots of pixels

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                                  @twilliability @JulianOliver I would still like to hear it. Maybe with headphones, so the room is not unbearable. Also, there are many ways to sonify it. It could sound like cockroaches walking on paper, for instance ๐Ÿ˜

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                                  • twilliability@genart.socialT twilliability@genart.social

                                    @JulianOliver yes it's at first idea stage ๐Ÿ™‚ it is not beyond me to take liberties for an experience that is memorable but maybe not 1:1 with reality.

                                    screen is easier, lots of pixels

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                                    #99

                                    @twilliability Hehe. Me too. You live coders are good at managing chaos, so perhaps you could find a way to tame it, or pick out certain outlier patterns from these vacuum cleaners. It's true looking at crawler operators with huge swarms that they do shift across IP ranges as they feed, so there's that to play with I guess. OpenAI and Amazon in particular.

                                    You'd get a lot more perceptible detail if you could slow them down but my exp is that if you try & rate limit too much they lose interest!

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                                    • elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

                                      @JulianOliver

                                      Are you still looking for domains?

                                      Somehow www.qaz.red is pointing at 95.216.76.85. Should I add an AAAA record, too?

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                                      @elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.

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                                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                        @elithebearded Oh hey thanks! I'll add it today. An AAAA would be great if you have a moment.

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                                        #101

                                        @JulianOliver

                                        Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters

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                                        • elithebearded@fed.qaz.redE elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

                                          @JulianOliver

                                          Done. Copied from tender.horse, if it matters

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                                          #102

                                          @elithebearded You are live and listed here ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          https://scienceispoetry.net/

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