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  • graphicmatt@mastodon.socialG graphicmatt@mastodon.social

    Before the next item, Councillor Gord Perks rises to pay tribute to the departing David Stonehouse, the longtime director of the waterfront secretariat. "He asked that we not do this, but in typical fashion, we're going to ignore advice from staff," jokes Perks.

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    Up now: the island airport. Premier Doug Ford says he intends to pass legislation that would take Toronto's spot in the tripartite agreement governing Billy Bishop Island Airport, which would clear the runway for airport expansion. https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2026.MM39.59

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      Up now: the island airport. Premier Doug Ford says he intends to pass legislation that would take Toronto's spot in the tripartite agreement governing Billy Bishop Island Airport, which would clear the runway for airport expansion. https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2026.MM39.59

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      "I would suggest that the provincial government could assume responsibility for the agreement through legislation, but the federal government would not have to accept the amendment to the contract," says the city solicitor re: the tripartite agreement. The feds could stop Ford, in other words.

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        "I would suggest that the provincial government could assume responsibility for the agreement through legislation, but the federal government would not have to accept the amendment to the contract," says the city solicitor re: the tripartite agreement. The feds could stop Ford, in other words.

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        Fletcher asks how the city is supposed to deal with all the ongoing planning applications in the port lands if flight paths are going to change at the island airport.

        "That is certainly something that we will want to look at," say staff. Okay then.

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          They redo the bad landlord vote for Holyday. He remembers, this time, where the YES button is. It CARRIES 26-0.

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          @GraphicMatt

          > They redo the bad landlord vote for Holyday. He remembers, this time, where the YES button is.

          It would actually be a funny self-deprecating joke if he weren't such an insufferable, pompous, pedantic, regressive, self-interested ass.

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            Fletcher asks how the city is supposed to deal with all the ongoing planning applications in the port lands if flight paths are going to change at the island airport.

            "That is certainly something that we will want to look at," say staff. Okay then.

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            "Can you help me understand how the airport operations could make life less livable in this city?" wonders Holyday. Staff cite significantly increased traffic, interference with recreational uses in the harbour, the potential for "jet blast screens" on the runway, noise, etc.

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              "Can you help me understand how the airport operations could make life less livable in this city?" wonders Holyday. Staff cite significantly increased traffic, interference with recreational uses in the harbour, the potential for "jet blast screens" on the runway, noise, etc.

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              Councillor Matlow has a motion on the island airport. It asks staff for advice on "potential legal options to defend the City of Toronto's interests" in waterfront lands like the airport.

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                Up now: the island airport. Premier Doug Ford says he intends to pass legislation that would take Toronto's spot in the tripartite agreement governing Billy Bishop Island Airport, which would clear the runway for airport expansion. https://secure.toronto.ca/council/agenda-item.do?item=2026.MM39.59

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                @GraphicMatt Ford thinks he is king. I imagine he's making a fine profit by damaging the province.

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                  Councillor Matlow has a motion on the island airport. It asks staff for advice on "potential legal options to defend the City of Toronto's interests" in waterfront lands like the airport.

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                  "Doug Ford needs to understand that leadership is NOT cutting partners out and making announcements AT people rather than WITH people," says Matlow. He says it doesn't matter what you think about jets on the island, people should want a better process.

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                    "Doug Ford needs to understand that leadership is NOT cutting partners out and making announcements AT people rather than WITH people," says Matlow. He says it doesn't matter what you think about jets on the island, people should want a better process.

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                    "We firmly say, and we demand, a seat at the table. We deserve it, and there is no table without us," says Deputy Mayor Ausma Malik.

                    "Everything has been put at risk, and we simply cannot take the premier's word that he somehow has the city of Toronto's interest at heart."

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                      "We firmly say, and we demand, a seat at the table. We deserve it, and there is no table without us," says Deputy Mayor Ausma Malik.

                      "Everything has been put at risk, and we simply cannot take the premier's word that he somehow has the city of Toronto's interest at heart."

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                      "If they take this land of the city, what is next — and in whose interest? What important housing projects are going to be interrupted, cancelled, or backtracked -- what is up for grabs next, without say from our residents?" asks Malik.

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                        "If they take this land of the city, what is next — and in whose interest? What important housing projects are going to be interrupted, cancelled, or backtracked -- what is up for grabs next, without say from our residents?" asks Malik.

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                        "The next thing you know, [Ford] will send in somebody to take the mayor out, if you know what I mean. This is not Venezuela! You just don't do whatever you want. This is Toronto. We live in a DEMOCRACY," says Councillor Paula Fletcher.

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                          "The next thing you know, [Ford] will send in somebody to take the mayor out, if you know what I mean. This is not Venezuela! You just don't do whatever you want. This is Toronto. We live in a DEMOCRACY," says Councillor Paula Fletcher.

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                          Councillor Stephen Holyday says he is "REALLY ANGRY."

                          "What I see is a city disintegrating and a lack of leadership on all of this!" He's mad, he says, because Metrolinx took some land on Eglington West for the LRT and no one cared, but now people are mad about the airport land.

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                            Councillor Stephen Holyday says he is "REALLY ANGRY."

                            "What I see is a city disintegrating and a lack of leadership on all of this!" He's mad, he says, because Metrolinx took some land on Eglington West for the LRT and no one cared, but now people are mad about the airport land.

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                            Holday also argues that wards in Etobicoke and North York are already subject to airplane noise from Pearson, so he doesn't see why the waterfront wards should be spared from additional island airport impacts.

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                              Holday also argues that wards in Etobicoke and North York are already subject to airplane noise from Pearson, so he doesn't see why the waterfront wards should be spared from additional island airport impacts.

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                              "If you don't understand the economic interest in having a successful international airport ... the problem is not with the policy, the problem is with YOU," concludes Holyday, suggesting councillors who oppose this should run for provincial office.

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                                "If you don't understand the economic interest in having a successful international airport ... the problem is not with the policy, the problem is with YOU," concludes Holyday, suggesting councillors who oppose this should run for provincial office.

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                                "If you're not at the table, then you're on the menu," says Councillor Brad Bradford. He argues that Chow and council failed to commit to a "long-term vision" for the airport in 2024, which led to this move for the provincial and federal govs to go forward without the city.

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                                  "If you don't understand the economic interest in having a successful international airport ... the problem is not with the policy, the problem is with YOU," concludes Holyday, suggesting councillors who oppose this should run for provincial office.

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                                  Oh sit down Holyday you sack of gas.

                                  Pearson has been slinging jets since it was Malton airport. People who live under its flightpaths have known what they're signing up for decades.

                                  People who buy residential propertly along the lakefront by BB might reasonably assume that a Dash-8 might be the worst they could expect because its the biggest/loudest the airport can handle w/o expansion; and who'd want to try and cram more airport there? there's no room!

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                                    "If you're not at the table, then you're on the menu," says Councillor Brad Bradford. He argues that Chow and council failed to commit to a "long-term vision" for the airport in 2024, which led to this move for the provincial and federal govs to go forward without the city.

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                                    Mayor Chow is up. "Let us not twist truth," she says in response to Bradford. "We have a vision of the waterfront! We've said we have one. We said we will negotiate this master plan, this tripartite agreement!"

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                                      Mayor Chow is up. "Let us not twist truth," she says in response to Bradford. "We have a vision of the waterfront! We've said we have one. We said we will negotiate this master plan, this tripartite agreement!"

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                                      "In my mind, democracy matters," says Chow.

                                      "We are a level of government that is one of the biggest in the country. We have a huge budget. And we have to be part of the conversation."

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                                        "In my mind, democracy matters," says Chow.

                                        "We are a level of government that is one of the biggest in the country. We have a huge budget. And we have to be part of the conversation."

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                                        "On Monday, we heard that land will be expropriated. Which land? What land? Has anyone seen the plan? Has anyone seen precisely what kind of tripartite agreement is going to be acceptable? Is there a plan? If there is, it's a mystery to me," says Chow of the island airport.

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                                          "On Monday, we heard that land will be expropriated. Which land? What land? Has anyone seen the plan? Has anyone seen precisely what kind of tripartite agreement is going to be acceptable? Is there a plan? If there is, it's a mystery to me," says Chow of the island airport.

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                                          "We are not shutting down that airport," says Chow, noting that the priority should actually be for Billy Bishop to get the approved runway extensions done so they can meet federal safety regulations.

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