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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

    Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

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    Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

    The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

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    GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

    #Solar

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    @Edent

    Oooooh! I was wondering whether that could happen at some point!

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    • oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ieO oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ie

      @Edent

      If I'm reading this correctly this allows consumers to feed solar into the grid. Do they get paid for doing it or is it just a case of if the sun's shining you might want to put your washing on?

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      @OneInterestingFact
      Yes. If you have an export tariff you'll get paid for every kWh you pass back to the grid.

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        @OneInterestingFact
        Yes. If you have an export tariff you'll get paid for every kWh you pass back to the grid.

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        @Edent I look forward to the govt's publicity making that clear.

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        • greem@cyberplace.socialG greem@cyberplace.social

          @Edent It is good news but I can't help feeling that we're all about to be scalped in terms of pricing.

          I hope not, but big retail in the UK has a nasty habit of artificial scarcity and price bumps.

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          @greem
          You don't have to buy from a "big" retailer.
          Plenty of manufacturers sell direct.

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

            Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

            Link Preview Image
            Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

            The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

            favicon

            GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

            #Solar

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            @Edent excellent news if it turns out they don't screw it up.

            but.

            "plug it into your mains"? really? how does that work?

            edit: even if it does work — how would i know it was doing anything?

            edit^2: the relevant search term here is "G98". i'm still very confused what the hell this is, but it is a thing, in some areas.

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            • greem@cyberplace.socialG greem@cyberplace.social

              @Edent It is good news but I can't help feeling that we're all about to be scalped in terms of pricing.

              I hope not, but big retail in the UK has a nasty habit of artificial scarcity and price bumps.

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              @greem @Edent lidl specifically were very slow to raise prices when eg tesco jacked theirs up 40% overnight (and then again a few months later). Not that I think they're saints, but they seem to get that people plain don't have money.

              Hopefully that means we'll start seeing them show up in lidl's aisle of shite

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

                Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

                Link Preview Image
                Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

                The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

                favicon

                GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

                #Solar

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                #17

                @Edent That's great. We could do with plug-in battery packs too.

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

                  Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

                  Link Preview Image
                  Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

                  The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

                  favicon

                  GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

                  #Solar

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                  @Edent I *love* this. These ultra low-friction options are absolutely key to popular adoption in the early stages.

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                  • oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ieO oneinterestingfact@mastodon.ie

                    @Edent I look forward to the govt's publicity making that clear.

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                    @OneInterestingFact @Edent

                    I look forward to the government ever making anything clear.

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                    • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                      @OneInterestingFact @Edent

                      I look forward to the government ever making anything clear.

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                      @Walrus What did your MP and Senedd member say when you complained to them about this?

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                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                        @Walrus What did your MP and Senedd member say when you complained to them about this?

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                        @Edent

                        Oh, come on. I don't have to make sense when I take cheap shots, do I?

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                        • sheddi@mstdn.partyS sheddi@mstdn.party

                          @Edent
                          For anyone reading this who thinks "you can't buy plugin solar panels from Lidl!" here's a link to Lidl Germany where that is definitely a thing:

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                          Stromerzeuger ► Für die Orte wo sich sonst keine Stromquelle befindet ✓ Finde den passenden Stromerzeuger - anschließen und Los gehts

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                          (www.lidl.de)

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                          @sheddi @Edent OMG this things are cheaper every day. When I bough it 3 yrs ago, it was 700€ for 800Wp WITHOUT a battery, now you get it with 2kWh battery for the same price...

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

                            Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

                            Link Preview Image
                            Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

                            The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

                            favicon

                            GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

                            #Solar

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                            @Edent in case anyone missed it, here's a primer on the potential of solar.

                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM

                            Watch or listen to the end.

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                            • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                              @Edent

                              Oh, come on. I don't have to make sense when I take cheap shots, do I?

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                              @Walrus Kinda, yeah.
                              I used to work for the UK Government. We spent a lot of time and energy publishing things as clearly as possible.

                              Then some cleverdick would complain that we hadn't done a good enough job when, in reality, they just hadn't bothered looking.

                              I think that press release is pretty clearly written. If you genuinely don't then, yes, you should write to your representatives and complain. That's the only way feedback gets heard.

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                              • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                                @Edent

                                Oh, come on. I don't have to make sense when I take cheap shots, do I?

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                                @Walrus @Edent Aren't the issues with unlimited / random feed back in to grid related to the infrastructure to handle it.

                                I may be wrong, but I assumed the hassle to get the limit on what we can feed in to to technical, not political.

                                If it is purely political, then hell yeh. Feed in that sunshine, and battery,

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                                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                  @Walrus @Edent Aren't the issues with unlimited / random feed back in to grid related to the infrastructure to handle it.

                                  I may be wrong, but I assumed the hassle to get the limit on what we can feed in to to technical, not political.

                                  If it is purely political, then hell yeh. Feed in that sunshine, and battery,

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                                  @revk
                                  Yeah, the DNO can object if you're planning to put dozens of panels up and they think the grid can't handle it.

                                  But balcony solar is likely to only be a couple of panels per household. Results from Germany are encouraging (albeit a different grid to ours).

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    @revk
                                    Yeah, the DNO can object if you're planning to put dozens of panels up and they think the grid can't handle it.

                                    But balcony solar is likely to only be a couple of panels per household. Results from Germany are encouraging (albeit a different grid to ours).

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                                    @Edent I thought 3.1kW was allowed or some similar amount, for feed in without approval, so that sort of already covers it, no?

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                                    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                      @Edent I thought 3.1kW was allowed or some similar amount, for feed in without approval, so that sort of already covers it, no?

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                                      @revk TBH, it seems to change regularly. When we had ours done 5ish years ago it required DNO sign off, I think.

                                      But, yeah, with all the grid upgrades going on it looks like it is just a regulatory problem.

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.

                                        Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Government to go "further and faster" in becoming energy secure

                                        The Energy Secretary outlines measures to protect consumers and make Britain energy secure.

                                        favicon

                                        GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

                                        #Solar

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                                        @Edent I wonder why they were illegal in the first st place, are they notorious shoplifters or something?

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                                        • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                          @Walrus @Edent Aren't the issues with unlimited / random feed back in to grid related to the infrastructure to handle it.

                                          I may be wrong, but I assumed the hassle to get the limit on what we can feed in to to technical, not political.

                                          If it is purely political, then hell yeh. Feed in that sunshine, and battery,

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                                          @revk @Edent

                                          I think you're right. Most meters presumably only measure what comes in. we have a separate export meter for our solar panels.

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