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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger do you assume its historical sails, or do they have access to our modern databases of designs, like an archive of Wikipedia etc?
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger Your fictional world can be whatever tech level you want it to be. Humans sailed the world for thousands of years with just sails, wind and human powered oars. Why would your idea be a mistake?
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@DavidBridger do you assume its historical sails, or do they have access to our modern databases of designs, like an archive of Wikipedia etc?
@alxd Thanks. No Internet, only tales of it. So, old fashioned canvas sails.
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@DavidBridger Your fictional world can be whatever tech level you want it to be. Humans sailed the world for thousands of years with just sails, wind and human powered oars. Why would your idea be a mistake?
@Dewines Thanks, Helen. You and I are on the same page. My wariness is that I have no knowledge of battery technology so don't know if they might feasibly be able to make them, starting from nothing.
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger A large ship requires a large crew, who need to be fed. You might need to address storage of perishables, and access to fresh water. Might be worth researching low-tech ways of handling this.
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@alxd Thanks. No Internet, only tales of it. So, old fashioned canvas sails.
@DavidBridger so where did they take these? Old books? Retellings?
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@Dewines Thanks, Helen. You and I are on the same page. My wariness is that I have no knowledge of battery technology so don't know if they might feasibly be able to make them, starting from nothing.
@DavidBridger Battery technology is perhaps older than you realise. They were chemical based and weren't rechargeable. If you want/need your characters to have batteries, then low tech ones did exist. But it's entirely up to you whether you include them or not. See this article.
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@DavidBridger A large ship requires a large crew, who need to be fed. You might need to address storage of perishables, and access to fresh water. Might be worth researching low-tech ways of handling this.
@degroof Thank you.
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@DavidBridger so where did they take these? Old books? Retellings?
@alxd Human ingenuity and generational teaching is my plan.
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@DavidBridger Battery technology is perhaps older than you realise. They were chemical based and weren't rechargeable. If you want/need your characters to have batteries, then low tech ones did exist. But it's entirely up to you whether you include them or not. See this article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_battery@Dewines Thank you.
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@alxd Human ingenuity and generational teaching is my plan.
@DavidBridger for a big vessel? So its either 200 years of tradition of smaller ones, or a potential failure
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger sounds okay to me. I look at today's green energy and while it will do much to reduce global emissions, we are still ruining the environment by mining for precious metals and minerals for this tech (and going to war to obtain them).
If you want a non fiction history book about how we have travelled across the sea since early humans right until the present, I highly recommend this book.
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger How small a community?
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
Two centuries is enough for nearly all electrical things to fail, and spare parts can't be made without an industrial base.
*Some* places might have basic radio; batteries aren't hard to make (2 metals, some acid); water and wind power are fairly easy to gather with magnets and wire.
A ship engine requires infrastructure. Especially to fuel it. (At *least* a coal mine; refining is more.) Anywhere there's decent regular winds wouldn't bother with more than sails.
(All IMHO.
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger There can be no mistakes if you build your world convincingly. You just have to let us believe in why that technology exists. Could be because it is a taboo to use any other kind of tech, if people blame tech for the catastrophe?
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#WritingCommunity
#Solarpunk
#HopepunkCan anyone suggest a way that I might be making a mistake in the idea for my next book? Here it is.
200 years after a global catastrophic failure of humanity's fossil-fuelled societies, a small community of shipbuilders and sailors starts exploring oceanic trade with a big wooden cargo ship. No engines or electric motors. Sails only is their technological level. No motors or batteries makes sense to me, but do you think it might be a mistake?
Thanks.
@DavidBridger something to consider for your story is this - after two centuries of collapse there will be isolated groups of humans. Folks showing up with sailboats will bring diseases. Languages will also have shifted a bit so even if your sailors manage to stay within anglophone territories there will be some cases of misunderstandings so you’ll see trade pidgin and even hand talk like in native North America.
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@DavidBridger for a big vessel? So its either 200 years of tradition of smaller ones, or a potential failure
@alxd Yes, 200 years of building smaller boats. That's the picture exactly.
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@DavidBridger something to consider for your story is this - after two centuries of collapse there will be isolated groups of humans. Folks showing up with sailboats will bring diseases. Languages will also have shifted a bit so even if your sailors manage to stay within anglophone territories there will be some cases of misunderstandings so you’ll see trade pidgin and even hand talk like in native North America.
@DavidBridger (sorry didn’t answer your sailing tech question!)
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@DavidBridger sounds okay to me. I look at today's green energy and while it will do much to reduce global emissions, we are still ruining the environment by mining for precious metals and minerals for this tech (and going to war to obtain them).
If you want a non fiction history book about how we have travelled across the sea since early humans right until the present, I highly recommend this book.
@Emmacox Thank you, Emma. I'll buy that.
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@DavidBridger How small a community?
@DrorBedrack 220 people, with a family of traditional boatbuilders at its core.
