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heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

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  • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

    heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

    (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

    https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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    the verge is paywalled (forgot my RSS reader bypasses that to get the full text) - the full vulnerability disclosure is here https://github.com/Bin4ry/yarbo-nat-in-my-back-yard

    here's just one part of it

    (also gonna mute this thread)

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    • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

      heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

      (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

      https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

      nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @Dex This timeline we live in just never stops does it?

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      • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

        heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

        (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

        https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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        @Dex Root access on anything to do with gardening seems especially nasty.

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        • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

          heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

          (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

          https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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          @Dex @octothorpe immediate addition to the never ever buy from this company list

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          • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

            heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

            (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

            https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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            @Dex And how much is the military spending on developing deadly ALVs?

            They're already Developed!

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            • steveriggins@mastodon.socialS steveriggins@mastodon.social

              @Dex @octothorpe immediate addition to the never ever buy from this company list

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              @steveriggins @Dex yuuuuup

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              • octothorpe@mastodon.onlineO octothorpe@mastodon.online

                @steveriggins @Dex yuuuuup

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                @octothorpe @steveriggins @Dex It’s only a matter of time before they hack into cars, if they haven’t already.

                I am going to be stuck with my old car forever. 😞

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                • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                  @octothorpe @steveriggins @Dex It’s only a matter of time before they hack into cars, if they haven’t already.

                  I am going to be stuck with my old car forever. 😞

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                  @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex I’m only concerned about riding lawnmowers 😆

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                  • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

                    heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

                    (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

                    https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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                    @Dex why in the everloving fuck are lawnmowers even connected to the internet?
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                    • steveriggins@mastodon.socialS steveriggins@mastodon.social

                      @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex I’m only concerned about riding lawnmowers 😆

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                      @steveriggins You have that big a yard? I like well-balanced and oiled pushmowers. Quiet, less room to store, environmentally-friendly, easier to push than gas, and they absolutely don’t spy on me or are hackable. 🙂 @octothorpe @Dex

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                      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                        @steveriggins You have that big a yard? I like well-balanced and oiled pushmowers. Quiet, less room to store, environmentally-friendly, easier to push than gas, and they absolutely don’t spy on me or are hackable. 🙂 @octothorpe @Dex

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                        @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex no. I will likely have a hand push mower at the new place. Very little grass. Not worried about my car though.

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                        • steveriggins@mastodon.socialS steveriggins@mastodon.social

                          @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex no. I will likely have a hand push mower at the new place. Very little grass. Not worried about my car though.

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                          @steveriggins @octothorpe @Dex Toronto area has yards that to me seem ridiculous to mow with this gas and electric mowers. By the time you pull the thing out, the lawn could’ve been mowed and you could be sitting in a chair, sipping wine. 🙂

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                          • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                            @steveriggins @octothorpe @Dex Toronto area has yards that to me seem ridiculous to mow with this gas and electric mowers. By the time you pull the thing out, the lawn could’ve been mowed and you could be sitting in a chair, sipping wine. 🙂

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                            @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex one advantage to a riding mower is sipping wine while clipping the lawn haha.

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                            • steveriggins@mastodon.socialS steveriggins@mastodon.social

                              @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex no. I will likely have a hand push mower at the new place. Very little grass. Not worried about my car though.

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                              @steveriggins I do not want a car with internet, subscriptions, NDAs, things that mean I haven’t really bought a car but have handed someone a lot of money to monetize me with 3rd parties so Si can pretend I own it. I don’t want cameras, computers phoning in my driving habits. I just want a car that works as expected. And I want dials and buttons and keyholes, not computer screens. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?! 😉 @octothorpe @Dex

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                              • steveriggins@mastodon.socialS steveriggins@mastodon.social

                                @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex one advantage to a riding mower is sipping wine while clipping the lawn haha.

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                                @steveriggins Drinking and driving? You didn’t really want the pansies or azaleas, did you? 🙂

                                @octothorpe @Dex

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                                • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

                                  heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

                                  (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

                                  https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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                                  @Dex Living in the future.

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                                  • dex@scalie.clubD dex@scalie.club

                                    heads up if you have a yarbo lawnmower, switch it off, change your home wifi password, and potentially move house

                                    (root access with the same root password on every mower - reset to the same thing after every update even if you change it, your wi-fi credentials + gps in plaintext. also for some reason all the safety features designed to stop them hitting people can be overridden remotely)

                                    https://www.theverge.com/tech/925696/yarbo-robot-lawn-mower-hack-remote-control-camera-access-mqtt

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                                    @Dex "Connect everything to the Internet"... is a form of mass insanity.

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                                      @steveriggins I do not want a car with internet, subscriptions, NDAs, things that mean I haven’t really bought a car but have handed someone a lot of money to monetize me with 3rd parties so Si can pretend I own it. I don’t want cameras, computers phoning in my driving habits. I just want a car that works as expected. And I want dials and buttons and keyholes, not computer screens. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?! 😉 @octothorpe @Dex

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                                      @CStamp @octothorpe @Dex nope? That’s fine. I like that mine drives itself in traffic and that it can find nearby charging stations and get the car ready for charging on the way and that my dash camera will catch any issue when it happens. If it’s sending my data to someone I didn’t approve, that won’t last long in class action court. WA just went to self recording mileage vs requiring an app so moving in the right direction.

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