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Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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  • regguy@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    @notyourfanboy @campuscodi No, the miners aren't, the stooges are.

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    • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

      Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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      Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

      The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

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      @campuscodi they are still doing this stupid nonsense...

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      • fabrice@infosec.exchangeF fabrice@infosec.exchange

        @campuscodi they’ll make it up in volume… 😬

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        #42

        @fabrice @campuscodi I wonder if you have to remember that old SNL commercial about the bank that just made change to get that joke?

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          @campuscodi Out of curiosity, is this still the case? This article is about three weeks old… doesn't the Bitcoin hash difficulty adjust itself every two weeks? My understanding is the hash difficulty mechanism is *supposed* to serve as a check on mining going cash negative, so it's interesting if the mechanism fails. (Also, the BTC price itself has gone up a chunk since Mar 22.)

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          #43

          @mcc the cost of electricity factors in heavily - can’t really make a general statement. I went down a rabbit hole on this a couple months ago. Disclaimer - I’m not a miner or crypto investor, was just curious as the price was falling what the implications would be.

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          • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

            Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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            Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

            The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

            favicon

            (www.coindesk.com)

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            @campuscodi

            Yayyyy 🥳 🎉 🎊 👯‍♂️ 🎉 🥳

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            • burritosommelier@techhub.socialB burritosommelier@techhub.social

              @mcc the cost of electricity factors in heavily - can’t really make a general statement. I went down a rabbit hole on this a couple months ago. Disclaimer - I’m not a miner or crypto investor, was just curious as the price was falling what the implications would be.

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              #45

              @BurritoSommelier It does, yeah. What I mean is the difficulty-adjustment mechanism is supposed to be a check whereby the Bitcoin mechanism can correct for things like a sudden increase in the cost of energy. (But of course the fact it's *intended* to have this effect does not mean it *will* have the effect.)

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              • aizuchi@hachyderm.ioA aizuchi@hachyderm.io

                @campuscodi what if the Dutch Tulip bubble destroyed the planet’s ecology on its way to the history books

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                @aizuchi @campuscodi Now that is a history lesson I would actually pay attention to! 🤣 'The Flower That Ate The World.' It gives a whole new meaning to 'market crash.' If the ecology went with the economy, I guess we’d all be living in a very colorful wasteland right now!

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                • rudy_paul200@mastodon.socialR rudy_paul200@mastodon.social

                  @aizuchi @campuscodi Now that is a history lesson I would actually pay attention to! 🤣 'The Flower That Ate The World.' It gives a whole new meaning to 'market crash.' If the ecology went with the economy, I guess we’d all be living in a very colorful wasteland right now!

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                  @rudy_paul200 @campuscodi careful
                  World leaders are saying “hold my beer” even now

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                  • alexlubertozzi@mastodon.socialA alexlubertozzi@mastodon.social

                    @fabrice @campuscodi I wonder if you have to remember that old SNL commercial about the bank that just made change to get that joke?

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                    @alexlubertozzi @fabrice @campuscodi "The answer is simple: Volume."
                    https://youtu.be/KodqIPMbyUg?si=Z54922Cb3kXpjozp

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                    • aizuchi@hachyderm.ioA aizuchi@hachyderm.io

                      @rudy_paul200 @campuscodi careful
                      World leaders are saying “hold my beer” even now

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                      #49

                      @aizuchi @campuscodi Exactly. It feels like we’re living through the 'sequel' that no one asked for. History repeats itself, but this time it feels like it’s on fast-forward with the volume turned all the way up! 🎢

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                      • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

                        Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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                        Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

                        The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

                        favicon

                        (www.coindesk.com)

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                        @campuscodi only if you aren't mining with renewable energy sources. Miners who took the hit a few years ago to invest in renewable energy are still in the green.

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                          @notyourfanboy @RegGuy @campuscodi

                          Sounds almost like they don't believe in the hype... 😁

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                          • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

                            Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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                            Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

                            The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

                            favicon

                            (www.coindesk.com)

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                            @campuscodi

                            When is the whole scam going to shit the bed?

                            #scam #shitcoin

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              @BurritoSommelier It does, yeah. What I mean is the difficulty-adjustment mechanism is supposed to be a check whereby the Bitcoin mechanism can correct for things like a sudden increase in the cost of energy. (But of course the fact it's *intended* to have this effect does not mean it *will* have the effect.)

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                              @mcc well that’s a whole mechanism I wasn’t aware of, thanks for the info about that!

                              I was mostly looking into price points and when is it no longer cost effective, but I never saw that mentioned or taken into account

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                              • burritosommelier@techhub.socialB burritosommelier@techhub.social

                                @mcc well that’s a whole mechanism I wasn’t aware of, thanks for the info about that!

                                I was mostly looking into price points and when is it no longer cost effective, but I never saw that mentioned or taken into account

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                                @BurritoSommelier bitcoin has so many mechanisms, just an absurd convoluted number of mechanisms

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                                • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

                                  Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

                                  The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

                                  favicon

                                  (www.coindesk.com)

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                                  @campuscodi @JSteven GOOD.

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                                  • R robsonde@mastodon.social

                                    @campuscodi I do wonder how much bitcoin is mined on someone else’s power.
                                    The classic model of hacking a server, install a bitcoin miner, get coin without paying for power.

                                    It might make bitcoin mining malware more attractive?

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                                    @Robsonde @campuscodi ASICs are so much more power-efficient than GPUs that very little mining is done on hacked computers. It still happens because it's pure profit, but it's only a tiny portion of the total network hashrate.

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                                    • pier@infosec.exchangeP pier@infosec.exchange

                                      @campuscodi Just wait until they realize that the inefficiently solved math problems are actually worth nothing at all!

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                                      @pier @campuscodi

                                      should've used boinc and gridcoin. you also dont earn money, but at least the solved tasks help real world problems

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                                      • campuscodi@mastodon.socialC campuscodi@mastodon.social

                                        Bitcoin miners have entered the red as it now costs $88,000 to mint a $69,000 bitcoin

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                                        Bitcoin miners are losing $19,000 on every BTC produced as difficulty drops 7.8%

                                        The average production cost was sitting at $88,000 per bitcoin in mid-March, according to Checkonchain's difficulty regression model.

                                        favicon

                                        (www.coindesk.com)

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                                        @campuscodi (Plays "You Suffer" by Napalm Death)

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          @campuscodi Out of curiosity, is this still the case? This article is about three weeks old… doesn't the Bitcoin hash difficulty adjust itself every two weeks? My understanding is the hash difficulty mechanism is *supposed* to serve as a check on mining going cash negative, so it's interesting if the mechanism fails. (Also, the BTC price itself has gone up a chunk since Mar 22.)

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                                          @mcc @campuscodi
                                          Yes difficulty got adjusted.
                                          Miners can have incentives to temporarily mine at a loss.
                                          If you have an (temporary) adversary that depends on immediate cash flow with their mining activities, you can drive their mining operations temporarily off, which gives you a higher share in the market, which you can use to reduce the selling pressure, making your own holdings more valuable.
                                          If this was the reason, idk, I'm just rambling.
                                          All I know is that in this shitcoin economy there are lots of (semi) hidden incentives. Looking forward to the day they can't gain new cash flowing into their scam.

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