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The slow death of the power user.

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  • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

    The slow death of the power user.

    "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

    The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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    #technology #tech #sustainability

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    @koen_hufkens The control and extraction techniques that Apple, Google and others use are certainly true.

    I have a different take on the 'loss' of power users angle. The difference between today vs 40 years ago is not the percentage of the population that is interested in learning the fine details of technology. The difference is that 40 years ago, only the technically minded people touched computers at all. Today billions of people have computers in their pockets and on their desks.

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    • fast_code_r_us@floss.socialF fast_code_r_us@floss.social

      @koen_hufkens The control and extraction techniques that Apple, Google and others use are certainly true.

      I have a different take on the 'loss' of power users angle. The difference between today vs 40 years ago is not the percentage of the population that is interested in learning the fine details of technology. The difference is that 40 years ago, only the technically minded people touched computers at all. Today billions of people have computers in their pockets and on their desks.

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      @koen_hufkens The same percentage of people explore this technology deeply enough to understand and control it. The rest treat it as a black box or appliance with 'magic' inside.

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      • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

        @koen_hufkens We can't all be "power users" in everything we use. I'm 100% OK with instant usability. If someone wants to just use a computer without knowing how it works that's no different from me wanting to just use clothes without knowing about weaving and stitching. Yes, that means that I'm dependent on Big Sewing. I'm OK with that. I don't want to be a self-sufficient peasant who can do everything he needs to survive but can't go to the opera.

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        @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I think the difference is that you plateau at a different level if you were just a soft user of computers.

        I've had the experience where I've seen someone making painful little edits in a GUI editor and I say let me have that, do a couple things in vi, to their amazement

        Or not knowing how to reduce the size of a scanned pdf, a quick shell loop and Image Magick

        You may spend your whole life doing painful little things, that individually are easy, but over a lifetime..

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        • tallsimon@mstdn.caT tallsimon@mstdn.ca

          @koen_hufkens I saw a neat hiring trick once: an ISP had hidden the instructions on finding the job application in DNS TXT records. Without modest DNS and a few other networking skills you didn't get to even apply.

          I might have to resort to that if the "power user" situation is as bad as the article suggests. I guess I just don't hang out with the wrong people... 🤔

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          @TallSimon @koen_hufkens I saw something similar done for a web developer position. It looked like the application page (linked from one of the big job boards. Probably Monster; this was well before Indeed or ZipRecruiter) was broken, just a blank white page. In the end, I had to use curl to get the application. It basically filtered out people who lacked even the bare minimum curiosity required to check the source to figure out why/how this mission critical page was seemingly broken.

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          • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

            @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I think the difference is that you plateau at a different level if you were just a soft user of computers.

            I've had the experience where I've seen someone making painful little edits in a GUI editor and I say let me have that, do a couple things in vi, to their amazement

            Or not knowing how to reduce the size of a scanned pdf, a quick shell loop and Image Magick

            You may spend your whole life doing painful little things, that individually are easy, but over a lifetime..

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            @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I had a sudden thought. What if you have been doing GUI editing all your life, and doing search and replace, and there has been a little check box there labeled "regex" and you've never used it?

            Just imagine.

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            • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

              The slow death of the power user.

              "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

              The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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              (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

              #technology #tech #sustainability

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              @koen_hufkens

              "They know files exist somewhere, in the cloud maybe, or possibly inside the app itself — the distinction isn’t clear to them and they’ve never needed it to be."

              I hate software that stores the product of your work in some "library" somewhere that only it can retrieve and you are lucky if you can figure out where on the hard drive it actually is stored.

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              • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                The slow death of the power user.

                "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

                #technology #tech #sustainability

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                @koen_hufkens I'm not finished.

                As you describe these people I'm reminded of the person who uses AI to track her hours because her boss likes to rip her off.

                I said, "Be careful because AI isn't good for that kind of thing and will probably get it wrong a lot."

                Her response instantly changed my perspective: "Oh yeah it does!!!" and then just rattled on about it.

                I've been struggling with that ever since.

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                • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                  @DrHyde @koen_hufkens I think the difference is that you plateau at a different level if you were just a soft user of computers.

                  I've had the experience where I've seen someone making painful little edits in a GUI editor and I say let me have that, do a couple things in vi, to their amazement

                  Or not knowing how to reduce the size of a scanned pdf, a quick shell loop and Image Magick

                  You may spend your whole life doing painful little things, that individually are easy, but over a lifetime..

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                  @buckfiftyseven @koen_hufkens I'm sure that an expert in any other technology could think of similar things in their area of expertise. For example, there's people who can reverse a huge articulated lorry around a corner and up to a loading dock, and plenty who take several attempts to merely park their car and avoid even trying to park in some places where they could. Imagine how much time they could save and how much easier their life would be if they learned just one simple technique!

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                  • numodular@c.imN numodular@c.im

                    @koen_hufkens Even with the advent of #bioinformatics, helping integrate inherent DNA hardware, providing potential curriculum proficiency; the decline has followed the path of overt #Capitalism in conditioning 'easiest path' behaviors, aligning too often with gravity = varying degrees of collapse.

                    And the more 'global' and powerful the concentration of this effect, the steeper the collapse/extinction(s).

                    Similar can be mapped to #Communism, leaving more room between for #DemocraticSocialism.

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                    @numodular @koen_hufkens wut?

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                    • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                      @buckfiftyseven @koen_hufkens I'm sure that an expert in any other technology could think of similar things in their area of expertise. For example, there's people who can reverse a huge articulated lorry around a corner and up to a loading dock, and plenty who take several attempts to merely park their car and avoid even trying to park in some places where they could. Imagine how much time they could save and how much easier their life would be if they learned just one simple technique!

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                      @DrHyde @koen_hufkens for sure.

                      It's probably isn't a coincidence that "power users" try to rack up skills across disciplines, so that they can reap as many benefits as possible.

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                      • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                        @koen_hufkens We can't all be "power users" in everything we use. I'm 100% OK with instant usability. If someone wants to just use a computer without knowing how it works that's no different from me wanting to just use clothes without knowing about weaving and stitching. Yes, that means that I'm dependent on Big Sewing. I'm OK with that. I don't want to be a self-sufficient peasant who can do everything he needs to survive but can't go to the opera.

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                        @DrHyde @koen_hufkens When I started using computers as a child in the 1980s, you had to know a lot about the machine if you wanted to do anything remotely interesting at all other than playing games. I built my first PC from components as a teenager back in the early 1990s. I used Windows 3.1 only for the applications that needed it, running everything else from the MS-DOS command line because typing with ten fingers is much faster than clicking with three (I've always had three button mice before the scroll wheels came). In 1997, I installed my first Linux distribution on my 486, and I have been using Linux ever since. Mostly in dual boot configurations, starting Windows for the software that needed it, but over time, Wine became better and better at running Windows software on Linux, and nowadays most of my machines are Linux only.
                        I do like convenience though; for many years, Ubuntu was my favourite distribution, until it started becoming enshittified and I moved to Mint. While I know how to set up everything manually, I prefer something that installs quickly and easily, where everything comes with a decent default configuration you rarely need to change.
                        My desktop environment of choice is KDE, it has been KDE since version 1.0 in the late 1990s, mostly because I like the look and feel better than GNOME, and I like how much I can tweak it. Tweaking user interfaces is something I like to do; I like it with a lot of bling, a lot of eye candy, custom themes, custom designs, every single UI element tailored to my preferences.
                        Unfortunately, I never really got into software development, I'm too impatient for that. I do write some software of my own, but that's almost exclusively small single purpose command line tools written in Pascal or Python.

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                        • buckfiftyseven@mastodon.socialB buckfiftyseven@mastodon.social

                          @DrHyde @koen_hufkens for sure.

                          It's probably isn't a coincidence that "power users" try to rack up skills across disciplines, so that they can reap as many benefits as possible.

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                          @buckfiftyseven @koen_hufkens do they? Plenty of people are "power users" in just one or two disciplines, or at most in parts of several disciplines that they use together to achieve a single goal.

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                          • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                            @buckfiftyseven @koen_hufkens do they? Plenty of people are "power users" in just one or two disciplines, or at most in parts of several disciplines that they use together to achieve a single goal.

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                            @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven I think the discrepancy between someone who is proficient, mostly because it is their job, and power users is that the latter enjoy the challenge. In short, do you like to understand how things work - in addition to just learning a skill for money.

                            The anemia of most hardware stores is probably a similar sign of the times as the omnipresence of stuffing things in "the cloud".

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                            • jonathankoren@sfba.socialJ jonathankoren@sfba.social

                              @numodular @koen_hufkens wut?

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                              @jonathankoren I luv hand puppets. Did you graduate reach arounds?

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                              • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                The slow death of the power user.

                                "This isn’t an accident. This is the result of two decades of deliberate, calculated effort by the largest technology companies on earth to turn users into consumers, instruments into appliances, and technical literacy into a niche hobby for weirdos. They succeeded beyond their wildest expectations"

                                The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

                                favicon

                                (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

                                #technology #tech #sustainability

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                                @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

                                FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

                                It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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                                • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                  @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven I think the discrepancy between someone who is proficient, mostly because it is their job, and power users is that the latter enjoy the challenge. In short, do you like to understand how things work - in addition to just learning a skill for money.

                                  The anemia of most hardware stores is probably a similar sign of the times as the omnipresence of stuffing things in "the cloud".

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                                  @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven There is an irony in this as the times have never been better to be "a maker", yet on the whole there seems to be a regression.

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                                  • orionkidder@mas.toO orionkidder@mas.to

                                    @koen_hufkens Haven't read the article (yet!), but this excerpt is quite convincing.

                                    FYI to all, this has a name. It's called "deskilling." It's also how we've been trained to buy pancake *mix* even though it's three ingredients and the whole point is they're very very easy to make.

                                    It serves capital to slowly deskill us all to the point where we're dependent on them for *everything* rather than being able to make and fix things for ourselves and FOR EACH OTHER bc none of us is an island.

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                                    @OrionKidder Exactly, many end up being pancake mixed, or at least confused.

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                                    • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                      @OrionKidder Exactly, many end up being pancake mixed, or at least confused.

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                                      @koen_hufkens The verb "to pancake" could catch on, here.

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                                      • fast_code_r_us@floss.socialF fast_code_r_us@floss.social

                                        @koen_hufkens The same percentage of people explore this technology deeply enough to understand and control it. The rest treat it as a black box or appliance with 'magic' inside.

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                                        @fast_code_r_us There is the market penetration angle, but the lack of repairability is a part of this as well. When things are made intentionally difficult to understand, not because they are, but because it protects business interests, you lose out.

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                                        • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                          @DrHyde @buckfiftyseven There is an irony in this as the times have never been better to be "a maker", yet on the whole there seems to be a regression.

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                                          @koen_hufkens @DrHyde I suspect the ratio might be kind of the same as it always was. But certainly people who have curiosity and want to learn to do things with their fingers, can. YouTube videos on fly tying have ridiculous views. Especially considering that no one *needs* to tie a fly.

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