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  • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

    Random thought.

    If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

    Support your local library.

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    @davidnjoku I'd buy all the ground water.

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    • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

      Random thought.

      If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

      Support your local library.

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      @davidnjoku % yes to Support your Local #Library!!!

      Also, please let me add this here #AaronSwartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

      Tiago Peixoto (@tiago@social.skewed.de)

      In 2013 Aaron Swartz committed suicide for facing 35 years in prison for mass downloading scientific articles. 13 years later, Meta is almost getting away with an infraction orders of magnitude larger. The law didn't change. https://torrentfreak.com/uploading-pirated-books-via-bittorrent-qualifies-as-fair-use-meta/

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      social.skewed.de (social.skewed.de)

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      • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

        Random thought.

        If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

        Support your local library.

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        @davidnjoku@mastodon.world Many libraries were originally sponsored by the industrialist Andrew Carnegie.
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        • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
          @davidnjoku@mastodon.world Many libraries were originally sponsored by the industrialist Andrew Carnegie.
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          @nowster Fair point.

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          • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

            Random thought.

            If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

            Support your local library.

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            @davidnjoku

            In like thinking, if solar energy was free the oil & gas industry would do everything in their power to ensure it was not used …

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            • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

              Random thought.

              If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

              Support your local library.

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              @davidnjoku I volunteer at our local library and I have yet to see any bezos there

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              • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                Random thought.

                If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                Support your local library.

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                @davidnjoku

                What does capitalism have to do with the fact most people are stupid enough to get locked into a walled garden where they don't really buy anything but pay for a subscription?

                What does capitalism have to do with the fact that we are being pushed into a future where we essentially own nothing and we're supposed to be happy about it?

                Neither of these things are a fundamental part of capitalism.

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                • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                  @davidnjoku@mastodon.world Many libraries were originally sponsored by the industrialist Andrew Carnegie.
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                  @nowster @davidnjoku

                  True, he did.

                  And yet, we’re all better off sponsoring those libraries with our shared tax dollars rather than depending on a robber baron like Carnegie to decide that he is going to do something good for once.

                  And I think that’s where I share the sentiment David is expressing:

                  I don’t want to have bet something important on maybe a powerful, exploitative person so grow a little bit of a conscience or discovery mercy of some sort.

                  That’s really the big thing, isn’t it? Maybe the king is good, maybe bad, maybe both, but rather not have something as powerful as a king or an oligarch.

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                  • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                    @davidnjoku

                    What does capitalism have to do with the fact most people are stupid enough to get locked into a walled garden where they don't really buy anything but pay for a subscription?

                    What does capitalism have to do with the fact that we are being pushed into a future where we essentially own nothing and we're supposed to be happy about it?

                    Neither of these things are a fundamental part of capitalism.

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                    @Kalki_Rider They seem directly connected, to me. Capitalism causes both of them.

                    @davidnjoku

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                    • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                      @Kalki_Rider They seem directly connected, to me. Capitalism causes both of them.

                      @davidnjoku

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                      @woozle @davidnjoku Then you don't know the definition of capitalism. In capitalism, owning things is generally seen as a good thing.

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                      • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                        @davidnjoku@mastodon.world Many libraries were originally sponsored by the industrialist Andrew Carnegie.
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                        @nowster @davidnjoku

                        ‘Andrew Carnegie supported libraries because he believed access to knowledge was essential for self-improvement, merit-based success, and community advancement. As a formerly poor immigrant, he credited his own success to having free access to books, calling libraries "ladders upon which the aspiring may climb"’ Wikipedia

                        These ideas really didn’t used to be controversial or identifiable with a particular side of the political spectrum.

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                        • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                          Random thought.

                          If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                          Support your local library.

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                          @davidnjoku

                          And create new ones.

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                          • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                            Random thought.

                            If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                            Support your local library.

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                            @davidnjoku “Imagine there was no such thing as a library, and that members of the current neoliberal policy consensus were to sit down today and invent it.”

                            Just a moment...

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                            (www.dissentmagazine.org)

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                            • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                              @woozle @davidnjoku Then you don't know the definition of capitalism. In capitalism, owning things is generally seen as a good thing.

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                              @Kalki_Rider

                              Yes, that is correct. Capitalism says nothing, however, about ensuring that ownership is equitable, fair, or even common.

                              @davidnjoku

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                              • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                                @Kalki_Rider

                                Yes, that is correct. Capitalism says nothing, however, about ensuring that ownership is equitable, fair, or even common.

                                @davidnjoku

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                                @woozle @davidnjoku Well then, on the same token, Communism and Socialism must both fundamentally lead to totalitarianism.

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                                • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                                  @woozle @davidnjoku Well then, on the same token, Communism and Socialism must both fundamentally lead to totalitarianism.

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                                  @Kalki_Rider

                                  Why would you suggest that socialism leads to totalitarianism?

                                  @davidnjoku

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                                  • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                                    Random thought.

                                    If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                                    Support your local library.

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                                    @davidnjoku

                                    Oddly many towns main public library was built with funding from one of the original slave driving capitalists like JJHill. More or less as monuments to themselves.

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                                    • davidnjoku@mastodon.worldD davidnjoku@mastodon.world

                                      Random thought.

                                      If public libraries didn't already exist, capitalism wouldn't let you invent it. Can you imagine how many billions Jeff Bezos would plough into fighting the idea, destroying any politician who dared to back it?

                                      Support your local library.

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                                      @davidnjoku @MeaningfulBits

                                      Free books? That’s some super socialist shit, there!

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                                      • woozle@toot.catW woozle@toot.cat

                                        @Kalki_Rider

                                        Why would you suggest that socialism leads to totalitarianism?

                                        @davidnjoku

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                                        @woozle @davidnjoku Show me where it hasn't.

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                                        • kalki_rider@mastodon.socialK kalki_rider@mastodon.social

                                          @woozle @davidnjoku Show me where it hasn't.

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                                          @Kalki_Rider All of Scandinavia?

                                          You're viewing our current situation in a short-sighted way. Paying for subs means we're basically renting... from the rich person who owns the material or rights.

                                          The landlord is a part of capitalism.

                                          @woozle @davidnjoku

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