The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems.
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@tante and also, the whole power dynamic of shifting home/personal computing back to a mainframe that you need to buy time on. what has already happened with a lot of software moving to a "rent, but never own" model
@patrick_h_lauke @tante I actually prefer software subscriptions, so long as they’re reasonably priced. I’ve seen too many apps fade and die because their devs can’t afford to maintain them. I like open source, but we’ve convinced ourselves that software should be free, which is as much of a delusion as saying AI isn’t massive intellectual property theft.
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
This reminds me of a Johnny Mnemonic scenario, where any of us may have unauthorized data in our head that could be picked up by brain scans, resulting in criminal charges, civil liability and forced extraction.
*Torment Nexus is a warning not a business plan meme*
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@patrick_h_lauke @tante I actually prefer software subscriptions, so long as they’re reasonably priced. I’ve seen too many apps fade and die because their devs can’t afford to maintain them. I like open source, but we’ve convinced ourselves that software should be free, which is as much of a delusion as saying AI isn’t massive intellectual property theft.
@patrick_h_lauke @tante I will agree that large corporations are virtually forcing us into cloud storage and on demand downloads so that we’re dependent on them. I had to jump through hoops to keep local copies of my files.
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@patrick_h_lauke @tante I will agree that large corporations are virtually forcing us into cloud storage and on demand downloads so that we’re dependent on them. I had to jump through hoops to keep local copies of my files.
@ArtGeek @patrick_h_lauke @tante
I prefer Davinci Resolve's model of selling permanent licenses to each major release. So you pay a few hundred bucks to own the software indefinitely, but if they release a version with a bunch of new features you can pay to upgrade. Much more ethical than subscriptions.
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@ArtGeek @patrick_h_lauke @tante
I prefer Davinci Resolve's model of selling permanent licenses to each major release. So you pay a few hundred bucks to own the software indefinitely, but if they release a version with a bunch of new features you can pay to upgrade. Much more ethical than subscriptions.
@contrasocial @ArtGeek @tante ditto with CaptureOne, Ableton Live...
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante Tell me you have no clue what intelligence is without admitting it.
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante I am literally old enough to have heard Lewis Stauss say nuclear energy would be "too cheap to meter". I wonder what his / his contemporaries' great-grandchildren are thinking about that.
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante where are more Luigis when you really need them...
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante So what is the point of being a human being? Altman and his AI mates are weapons of mass destruction.
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So did Jacobins.
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It's extra funny because his technology is garbage and is not capable, in any form, of replacing or even augmenting human intelligence.
Any database in which 20% of the data is wrong, but you don't know which 20%, is a database in which 100% of the data is useless.
He can dream shit like this up as much as he wants, but it's not going to happen.
No matter how much the Bosses shovel LLMs down our throats, they're never going to not be garbage.
@johnzajac He doesn't need to be able to genuinely improve the product. Just make a good enough sales pitch. Enshittification is the business model.
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante This is why we must - at any opportunity - choose not to outsource our own thinking.
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante Last week, I had someone on reddit claiming that programming will become an old man's hobby because of AI.
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@Mikal @Quasit @tante Aren't we heading that way? They don't need to make it illegal, just completely defund education especially in poorer communities... they are already doing that.
Flaming torches and pitchforks (and the yanks keep on rattling about that their right to arm bears is to defend against a government that turns into dictatorship...) -
@tante So what is the point of being a human being? Altman and his AI mates are weapons of mass destruction.
Oh hey, #chatCEO talks about intelligence.
The take is absolutely correct. The purpose of AI is to enslave the population to concentrate economic and political power for instance.
My chief question with any piece of technology is who ends up with power.
This is the first question to answer before anything else
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This reminds me of a Johnny Mnemonic scenario, where any of us may have unauthorized data in our head that could be picked up by brain scans, resulting in criminal charges, civil liability and forced extraction.
*Torment Nexus is a warning not a business plan meme*
Not long ago, I had this thought about how individuals with dark triad personality traits, which include psychopathy in addition to Machiavellianism and narcissism is that they read out of dystopic science fiction something completely different than somebody who has functioning empathy.
Because they don’t have the mirror cells reacting to what’s described they can’t read the dystopia
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RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442
The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.
It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.
@tante It's not just based on hope, there is a lot of research going into making people dumb and brain control in general. I'm sure there are already more technological solutions to this problem, like neurolink and similar technologies.
IMHO the main idea here is that allowing people to run around without controlling their brains is very dangerous, who knows what they might think of.
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@mossman yeah I didn't find his argument very convincing tbh
I don’t know what his argument is, but one thing I will ask about any technology is who ends up in control. With computers that people could buy for not so much money and software producing music became widely available. But we are not free of consolidated control of distribution. Musicians are still kind of fucked. See Spotify.
If computers were AI processing is not widely available we’re fucked. There is already talk of personal computers being made for lease only.
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Koch Network kept Uber & Lyfft afloat for a decade to thwart public transportation projects.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/climate/koch-brothers-public-transit.html
An Unholy Alliance Against Public Transit
Uber and the Kochs aren't often mentioned in the same sentence. But the rideshare company has joined the far-right billionaire-funded operation on a libertarian crusade to destroy public transit.
(jacobin.com)
To thwart a fossil fuel phase out, Koch Network is again lending its financial support to something unsustainable, polluting, & undemocratic.
The Koch Network Is Pushing Trump to Accelerate AI, Documents Show
Right-wing political group Americans for Prosperity, backed by oil and gas billionaire Charles Koch, sees data centers as part of a larger pro-fossil fuel agenda.
DeSmog (www.desmog.com)
Funders commit $1B toward developing AI tools for frontline workers
A coalition of philanthropic funders will spend $1 billion over 15 years to help develop artificial intelligence tools to help spur economic mobility.
AP News (apnews.com)
irony in that they’ve installed a party and a president with who engaged in a war that will demonstrate yet again why global supply chains in this case the global supply chain dependent on oil, not only for energy, but as a feed stock necessary for their industrialized food, production and for the extraction of resources necessary not only for “green” energy but almost everything in the global supply chain infrastructure is fragile
The great simplification is a thing
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It's extra funny because his technology is garbage and is not capable, in any form, of replacing or even augmenting human intelligence.
Any database in which 20% of the data is wrong, but you don't know which 20%, is a database in which 100% of the data is useless.
He can dream shit like this up as much as he wants, but it's not going to happen.
No matter how much the Bosses shovel LLMs down our throats, they're never going to not be garbage.
Altman’s superpower is as a mesmerizer.
He is an extremely proficient con man.
What the human race needs is a much more violent reaction to people like him in that they violently reject the con they just are allergic to it and treat people like him as the pariah he needs to be
