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  • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

    This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

    So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

    I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

    OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

    At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

    Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

    - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

    - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

    - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

    - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

    Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

    Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

    #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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    @jzb Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

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    • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

      This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

      So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

      I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

      OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

      At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

      Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

      - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

      - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

      - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

      - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

      Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

      Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

      #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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      @jzb It’s like being subjected to secondhand smoke-up-your-@$$.

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      • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

        This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

        So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

        I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

        OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

        At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

        Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

        - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

        - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

        - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

        - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

        Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

        Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

        #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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        @jzb Well said.

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        • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

          This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

          So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

          I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

          OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

          At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

          Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

          - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

          - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

          - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

          - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

          Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

          Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

          #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

          grechaw@sfba.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @jzb you say it for me and probably others too. Circumstances turning us into bitter zombies.

          "Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff."

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          • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

            This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

            So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

            I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

            OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

            At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

            Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

            - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

            - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

            - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

            - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

            Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

            Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

            #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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            @jzb
            Current mood : #Bladerunner

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            • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

              This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

              So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

              I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

              OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

              At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

              Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

              - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

              - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

              - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

              - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

              Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

              Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

              #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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              @jzb Why are you not demanding people stop using AI? What makes you think you don't have a right to demand this? The environmental and economic impact of this technology is so rapacious that it is absolutely immoral to usw this technology in any way.

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              • prainbow@mastodon.socialP prainbow@mastodon.social

                @jzb It’s like being subjected to secondhand smoke-up-your-@$$.

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                @Prainbow @jzb

                "Second-Hand Smoke" is a great analogy to the AI pollution issue. I hadn't thought of it quite like that until you said that - and yeah! thats perfect, and I thank you!

                #AISlop and #AI #Pollution is like subjecting others to #SecondHandSmoke

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                • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

                  This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                  So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                  I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                  OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                  At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                  Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                  - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                  - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                  - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                  - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                  Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                  Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                  #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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                  @jzb 100%

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                  • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                    @jzb Why are you not demanding people stop using AI? What makes you think you don't have a right to demand this? The environmental and economic impact of this technology is so rapacious that it is absolutely immoral to usw this technology in any way.

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                    @gcvsa I suppose I have a right to demand it, but not the ability to enforce such a thing.

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                    • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

                      This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                      So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                      I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                      OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                      At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                      Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                      - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                      - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                      - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                      - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                      Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                      Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                      #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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                      @jzb

                      ai use fosters the enstupification of humanity.

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                      • gcvsa@mstdn.plusG gcvsa@mstdn.plus

                        @jzb Why are you not demanding people stop using AI? What makes you think you don't have a right to demand this? The environmental and economic impact of this technology is so rapacious that it is absolutely immoral to usw this technology in any way.

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                        @gcvsa I'm trying to like this more but it won't let me. We need a double star button.

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                        • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

                          This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                          So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                          I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                          OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                          At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                          Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                          - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                          - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                          - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                          - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                          Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                          Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                          #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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                          @jzb Receiving an email at an address you make public is not a violation of consent just because you don't like the contents of it, when you advertise to others that you can be contacted online you will be contacted.

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                          • gsprs@mastodon.socialG gsprs@mastodon.social

                            @jzb Receiving an email at an address you make public is not a violation of consent just because you don't like the contents of it, when you advertise to others that you can be contacted online you will be contacted.

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                            Only a spam pro remains pro spam

                            @gsprs @jzb

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                            • jzb@hachyderm.ioJ jzb@hachyderm.io

                              This morning I got an email from a sender that identified itself as an AI agent.

                              So - plus for being upfront about it, but... please don't do this.

                              I get that a lot of people are really, really, really into AI tools. OK. I have my opinions on them, you have yours. I have major qualms about them, some people think they're the best thing ever.

                              OK. Fine. But when your use of these things spills over into the rest of the world, it's no longer a question of my opinion vs. your opinion, my decisions vs. your decisions.

                              At this point, things have moved from each person doing their own thing to inflicting your use of AI onto me without my consent.

                              Before this spirals out of control, which I can see happening *very* quickly, I'd like for us to agree on a piece of netiquette:

                              - it is rude in the extreme to set loose an AI agent to reach out to people who have not consented to interact with these things.

                              - it is rude to have an AI agent submit pull requests that human maintainers have to review.

                              - it is rude to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans in any way when they have not consented to take part in whatever experiment you are running.

                              - it is unacceptable to have an AI agent autonomously interact with humans without identifying the person or organization behind the agent. If you're not willing to unmask and have a person reach out to you with their thoughts on this, then don't have an AI agent reach out to me.

                              Stuff like this really sours me on technology right now. If I didn't have a family and responsibilities, I'd be seriously considering how I could go live off the grid somewhere without having to interact with this stuff.

                              Again: I'm not demanding that other people not use AI/LLMs, etc. But when your use spills out into my having to have interactions with an agent's output, you need to reconsider. Your ability to spew things out into the universe puts an unwanted burden on other humans who have not consented to this.

                              #LLMs #AI #AgenticAI #OpenClaw #OpenSource

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                              @jzb The worst thing to me is when you are asking a real person what he thinks about something and you get an answer that is clearly AI generated.

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