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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • hyperbolix@troet.cafeH hyperbolix@troet.cafe

    @masek "The potential terrorist has been apprehended at the border. He knowingly omitted the necessary information to keep our country safe. The dangerous individual is currently held in one of our detention centers and will be sent back to his home country after he or his family paid the processing and safekeeping fee in full."

    masek@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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    masek@infosec.exchange
    wrote last edited by
    #298

    @hyperbolix Guess they'll charge 5-star-prices while the services may not up to that standards 🙂. Heard the WIFI in the detention centers shall be pretty sub-par....

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

      justin@toot.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      justin@toot.io
      wrote last edited by
      #299

      @briankrebs if anyone was willing to get shot for no reason by travelling to the USA, now there's even more reasons not to go. 🤔

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      • pitrh@mastodon.socialP pitrh@mastodon.social

        @briankrebs Under the current administration, the US capacity, and downright craving, for self-harm seems infinite.

        jezcaudle@infosec.exchangeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        jezcaudle@infosec.exchange
        wrote last edited by
        #300

        @pitrh @briankrebs I’ve never felt the pull of the USA but have agreed to visit as my wife has relatives there and staying with a local who knows the best places is always better.

        That is now not happening any time soon at the insistence of my wife!!

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        • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

          @hyperbolix Guess they'll charge 5-star-prices while the services may not up to that standards 🙂. Heard the WIFI in the detention centers shall be pretty sub-par....

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          hyperbolix@troet.cafe
          wrote last edited by
          #301

          @masek The thing is, they know that people will omit information. This is what gives them the upper hand. So the only way to win this game is not to play...

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.privacyinternational.org)

            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

            anneke@front-end.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            anneke@front-end.social
            wrote last edited by
            #302

            @briankrebs the thing I am most worried about is that once this is implemented it will not be undone later. Rarely do security measures get reversed, authorities get too comfortable. This whole thing is sick

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            • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

              @briankrebs I think we can be sure the mandatory CBP app for the application won't be trustable either and could well be backdooring your device.

              Canada needs to apply the same rule to every truck crossing the border, especially to/from Alaska and searching each one for fentanyl or russian contraband.

              geert@society.oftrolls.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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              geert@society.oftrolls.com
              wrote last edited by
              #303

              @etchedpixels @briankrebs Another Suwałki Gap in the making?

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                sceptic@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                sceptic@infosec.exchange
                wrote last edited by
                #304

                @briankrebs Wrong tense. _Made up_ 3% of the nation's GDP.

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (www.privacyinternational.org)

                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                  lindarosesmit@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  lindarosesmit@mastodon.social
                  wrote last edited by
                  #305

                  @briankrebs fortunately i traveled the US prior to this disastergovernment and never need to go again.

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                  • nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
                    wrote last edited by
                    #306

                    @anarchic_teapot @briankrebs It is madness in extremis.

                    To have to divulge your FB history in order to enter the US ...

                    Businesses in the US will surely now seek to depose the whole corrupt political system. It is clearly pathological unfit for purpose.

                    Something will explode soon and then the tide will turn.

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                      nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #307

                      @anarchic_teapot @briankrebs My brother was a drummer. Used to practice when we shared a bedroom as teenagers - when I was trying to go to sleep! Only on rubber coated plywood boards, but even so ...

                      Used to play community football every week for years with no leaders - superb self organising anarchy in the original sense of that word.

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                      • ericphelps@mastodon.socialE ericphelps@mastodon.social

                        @derickr @ojensen @briankrebs Password managers! They can hold unique email addresses as well as the expected passwords and user names. Every account should have all three of those unique.

                        Gmail, firefox, duck, and pretty much all commercial email providers let you generate more email addresses than you'll ever need. Having hundreds of active email addresses is a normal thing. I tell myself that 😏.

                        floralia@jorts.horseF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        floralia@jorts.horse
                        wrote last edited by
                        #308

                        @ericphelps @derickr @ojensen @briankrebs Then you won't be allowed in the country.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #309

                          @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Then people who are escaping will have to find refuge outside Europe.

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                          • sternengucker@rollenspiel.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            sternengucker@rollenspiel.social
                            wrote last edited by
                            #310

                            @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs No. Let them travel. Let them come. Let EU be a safe haven for anyone wanting to flee Drump Country.

                            I’m really worried that the idea that cultural exchange stops is one of the prime targets of the current US „administration“. Don’t help them achieve this goal of Northkoreanification

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (www.privacyinternational.org)

                              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                              aaae@mas.toA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #311

                              @briankrebs There is only one answer possible to this, but I'm too polite to voice it. Suffice it to say I won't be visiting USA.

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                Just a moment...

                                favicon

                                (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                                henrik@eliitin-some.fiH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                henrik@eliitin-some.fi
                                wrote last edited by
                                #312

                                @briankrebs

                                How does one even "submit social media from the last 5 years"?

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Just a moment...

                                  favicon

                                  (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #313

                                  @briankrebs No way I could comply as I use wildcard email addressed (and have hundreds of domains) meaning I literally use a different email address on every form and web site and have no way to know them all. I have also had allocated to me well over a million phone numbers (as part of a junk call thing) - I could probably get a list of those and see if I can blow up the ESTA web site perhaps. And I have no right to give other people's numbers to the US either - does anyone, legally?

                                  auxonic@ottawa.placeA floppyplopper@todon.nlF tautology@infosec.exchangeT frantasaur@mastodon.ieF 4 Replies Last reply
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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                    Just a moment...

                                    favicon

                                    (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #314

                                    @briankrebs I wish they would take the Epstein investigation as serious as this.

                                    The Epstein files really may be the best thing that could happen to the world right now.

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                                    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                      @briankrebs No way I could comply as I use wildcard email addressed (and have hundreds of domains) meaning I literally use a different email address on every form and web site and have no way to know them all. I have also had allocated to me well over a million phone numbers (as part of a junk call thing) - I could probably get a list of those and see if I can blow up the ESTA web site perhaps. And I have no right to give other people's numbers to the US either - does anyone, legally?

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #315

                                      @revk not to mention that the form validation would probably reject that short domain that gives your trouble sometimes

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                        Just a moment...

                                        favicon

                                        (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #316

                                        @briankrebs lol. Hard pass. Good luck out there.

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                                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                          Just a moment...

                                          favicon

                                          (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                          fazalmajid@social.vivaldi.net
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #317

                                          @briankrebs email, social media and phone numbers for the last 5 years conclusively shows they have all been intercepted, archived and indexed for at least that long. What do you think that huge NSA data center in Utah was for?

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