There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis.
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Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.
On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.
@GrapheneOS in a weird way this is an acknowledgement, but dealing with that is tiresome
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On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.
@GrapheneOS The French Wikipedia page for GrapheneOS is currently the only accurate one and I am one of the contributors, another community member started rewriting the page, and I joined in. I haven't contributed to the page in quite a while, but everything looks fine to me.
The US page is managed by people hostile to GrapheneOS, as you already know. If you change the content, a member will revert your edit. I’ve tried several times with no success, it’s deplorable.
Attacks from scammers and companies selling snake oil seem to have intensified since the collaboration with Motorola Mobility. It’s absurd how many trolls and malicious people I see on X, and it’s almost impossible to respond to them all. This social network is terrible, I’ve rarely seen so much violent content on a platform, fortunately, there are also people who support the project.
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS most of them are <10 years old
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS I wouldn't assume they're people. Bullshit generators make it trivial to generate harassment these days.
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@0bs1d1an Jonah Aragon was part of Techlore and participated in his attacks on GrapheneOS which are what led to the swatting attacks by the Techlore community aimed at killing our founder. Jonah took these attacks on GrapheneOS with him to Privacy Guides which he leads. He has regularly used his position there to make personal attacks on our founder and attacks on GrapheneOS. He's one of the people orchestrating attacks on us with the numerous threads with inaccurate claims about our team.
@GrapheneOS @0bs1d1an i'm out of the loop, that seems wild, any legal action going on ?
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Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.
@GrapheneOS reddit is a sinking ship
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
They'd really rather have Jia Tan's brother running your project.
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS Some people have nothing better to do I guess. Rather complain than do anything themselves.
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS It's probably Google.
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS it's most likely their job at Google or Apple or within the government,.... they can't stand that you're not parasitic like they are.
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@GrapheneOS I wouldn't assume they're people. Bullshit generators make it trivial to generate harassment these days.
@be They're definitely people but they heavily use LLMs to generate their attacks on GrapheneOS to make content which appears technical to mislead people.
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@GrapheneOS @0bs1d1an i'm out of the loop, that seems wild, any legal action going on ?
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@GrapheneOS It's probably Google.
@drewtowler No, it definitely isn't. In fact, the attacks on us have largely been put in motion by companies selling dubious products marketed as avoiding Google and giving people privacy. Those products don't actually provide what they're claiming they do and they feel very threatened by GrapheneOS. They've attacked us themselves and started their supporters going attacking us which they aren't capable of stopping even if they tried. They're doing the opposite of trying to stop it though.
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@GrapheneOS it's most likely their job at Google or Apple or within the government,.... they can't stand that you're not parasitic like they are.
@KnobbyTiresOnly It isn't Apple or Google. In fact, the attacks on us have largely been put in motion by companies selling dubious products marketed as avoiding Google and giving people privacy. Those products don't actually provide what they're claiming they do and they feel very threatened by GrapheneOS. They've attacked us themselves and started their supporters going attacking us which they aren't capable of stopping even if they tried. They're doing the opposite of trying to stop it though.
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS I guess this is the proof, you guys are doing the things right!
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@0bs1d1an On Reddit, an account blocking you prevents you from replying not only directly to them but to any of the replies to them. Malicious people were using this to cycle through new accounts blocking hundreds of people to prevent replying. They were heavily maliciously attacking GrapheneOS and our team in /r/privacy and elsewhere. /r/privacy mods were not addressing it, so we kept privately complaining t o them. They were never willing to seriously deal with the abuse of their community.
@GrapheneOS I'm sorry for all the shit you have to deal with.
I'm a very happy user of GrapheneOS (I also donated).
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The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they'll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.
@GrapheneOS How can I still take r/privacy serious when they treat the most secure mobile OS this way?
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS to be fair to them, it is not allowed to discuss any custom ROM. Not just GOS
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There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.
@GrapheneOS if i remember the discussion about the os in france correctly there might easily be some paid actors among tose "critics" ... -
@GrapheneOS to be fair to them, it is not allowed to discuss any custom ROM. Not just GOS
@Lhyr The mods of /r/privacy specifically targeted GrapheneOS with this rule which is clear in their announcement. In their announcement, they claim to have implemented it to protect us. In reality, the mods are hostile towards GrapheneOS and one has even publicly participated in personal attacks on our team. The mod team misrepresented us wanting people to use our discussion forum instead of our subreddit as us not wanting people to be able to discuss GrapheneOS on Reddit which is nonsense.
