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SELF-PUBLISHED AUTHOR FRIENDSThis *INSANE* email from Barnes & Noble WTF—no more than 100 books and they start deleting??—removing titles that don't meet minimum sales?

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  • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

    I encourage everyone to email B&N and D2D right now... the more they sense the absolute panic this is causing in the indie world, the more likely they are to back off from draconian idiotic policies.
    3/3
    #writing #selfpublishing

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    @susankayequinn I emailed D2D and pointed out all the ways it hurts real authors and actually helps the genAI slop keep going (the fee itself punishes real authors who can't get seen through the slop while doesn't affect the sloppers who are already making money). It's ludicrous

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    • siobhanmuir@socel.netS siobhanmuir@socel.net

      @susankayequinn I emailed D2D and pointed out all the ways it hurts real authors and actually helps the genAI slop keep going (the fee itself punishes real authors who can't get seen through the slop while doesn't affect the sloppers who are already making money). It's ludicrous

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      #42

      @SiobhanMuir excellent!

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      • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

        SELF-PUBLISHED AUTHOR FRIENDS
        This *INSANE* email from Barnes & Noble WTF
        —no more than 100 books and they start deleting??
        —removing titles that don't meet minimum sales?

        What the hell? I've been publishing since 2011... I have 145 titles.

        AI deluge screwing us but still...it's war on indies.

        photo55@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #43

        @susankayequinn
        An inversion of "the long tail".

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        • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

          SELF-PUBLISHED AUTHOR FRIENDS
          This *INSANE* email from Barnes & Noble WTF
          —no more than 100 books and they start deleting??
          —removing titles that don't meet minimum sales?

          What the hell? I've been publishing since 2011... I have 145 titles.

          AI deluge screwing us but still...it's war on indies.

          smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #44

          Sad to hear all of this about D2D! Even though #SROP doesn't use the service, I had occasionally considered whether D2D might "help". Now glad I never did that, thus avoiding the aggravation of this latest enshittifying move. Hope all you indie authors find a good place to land when D2D goes belly-up.

          Happily ultra-independent here since 1976. 🎉📚

          @susankayequinn

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          • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

            @MisWiredKE whereas for me, every other week, I'm considering going entirely to print-only because I'm tired of my ebooks being pirated, fed into AI, and all the bullshit of the distributors and retailers shoving AI into my books

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            #45

            @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE Might be tempting to go print-only, but now, a quarter of the way into the 21st century, that would limit sales very drastically.

            The only time I buy print books now, for example, is whem they're ancient collectibles on my long-term want-list that I can't get as ebooks. (Or occasionally when the ebook versions of newer books are super-expensive and DRM-encumbered.)

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            • smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.orgS smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.org

              @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE Might be tempting to go print-only, but now, a quarter of the way into the 21st century, that would limit sales very drastically.

              The only time I buy print books now, for example, is whem they're ancient collectibles on my long-term want-list that I can't get as ebooks. (Or occasionally when the ebook versions of newer books are super-expensive and DRM-encumbered.)

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              #46

              @smashedratonpress @MisWiredKE

              print is actually on the rise (witness: the rise of indie bookstore, Bookshop.org, even zines and The Onion going print edition)... in fact, special edition print Kickstarters are also making a splash

              But that said, yes, you are right that most indies make their money on digital and that has been true for me as well (although I'm diversified into audio and print and libraries and it all adds up)

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              • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                SELF-PUBLISHED AUTHOR FRIENDS
                This *INSANE* email from Barnes & Noble WTF
                —no more than 100 books and they start deleting??
                —removing titles that don't meet minimum sales?

                What the hell? I've been publishing since 2011... I have 145 titles.

                AI deluge screwing us but still...it's war on indies.

                susankayequinn@wandering.shopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                susankayequinn@wandering.shop
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                #47

                **ME to B&N**
                According to this email you have a minimum sales policy — I have never heard of this policy before and there's no mention of minimum sales requirements in the Content Policy. What is the minimum sales policy?

                **B&N response**
                I'm sorry, but as of this time I do not have any additional information beyond what was in the email you received. Our Content Policy has always permitted us to remove books at any time as per our discretion.

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                • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                  **ME to B&N**
                  According to this email you have a minimum sales policy — I have never heard of this policy before and there's no mention of minimum sales requirements in the Content Policy. What is the minimum sales policy?

                  **B&N response**
                  I'm sorry, but as of this time I do not have any additional information beyond what was in the email you received. Our Content Policy has always permitted us to remove books at any time as per our discretion.

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                  #48

                  @susankayequinn probably a reaction to all the AI slop books that are being generated and dumped on them. I know yours aren't so this is a hamfisted approach on their part.

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                  • smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.orgS smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.org

                    @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE Might be tempting to go print-only, but now, a quarter of the way into the 21st century, that would limit sales very drastically.

                    The only time I buy print books now, for example, is whem they're ancient collectibles on my long-term want-list that I can't get as ebooks. (Or occasionally when the ebook versions of newer books are super-expensive and DRM-encumbered.)

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                    #49

                    @smashedratonpress
                    After Amazon dropped magazine subscriptions, I lost several years of issues.

                    If I'd bought them in paper, *I would still have them*.

                    Now I buy only paper or EPUB, no more proprietary formats!

                    Also, paper books never seem to have their batteries run out, or simply break and stop working. 😉
                    @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE

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                    • dancingtreefrog@mastodon.socialD dancingtreefrog@mastodon.social

                      @smashedratonpress
                      After Amazon dropped magazine subscriptions, I lost several years of issues.

                      If I'd bought them in paper, *I would still have them*.

                      Now I buy only paper or EPUB, no more proprietary formats!

                      Also, paper books never seem to have their batteries run out, or simply break and stop working. 😉
                      @susankayequinn @MisWiredKE

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                      @dancingtreefrog
                      Totally agree about proprietary formats! #EPUB is great... and so very portable these days.

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                      • smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.orgS smashedratonpress@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @dancingtreefrog
                        Totally agree about proprietary formats! #EPUB is great... and so very portable these days.

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                        #51

                        @smashedratonpress
                        👍😁

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                        • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                          I encourage everyone to email B&N and D2D right now... the more they sense the absolute panic this is causing in the indie world, the more likely they are to back off from draconian idiotic policies.
                          3/3
                          #writing #selfpublishing

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                          @susankayequinn
                          I unlisted all of my books and sent D2D a message through their system - which noted that they are very busy due to sudden onslaught of messages (I am not paraghracing exactly). I can't afford to pay a fee on books I already can't market properly due to making most of my measly income doing illustrations instead....so now I will be stuck with Amazon KDP. (÷_÷)*

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                          • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                            @susankayequinn
                            I unlisted all of my books and sent D2D a message through their system - which noted that they are very busy due to sudden onslaught of messages (I am not paraghracing exactly). I can't afford to pay a fee on books I already can't market properly due to making most of my measly income doing illustrations instead....so now I will be stuck with Amazon KDP. (÷_÷)*

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                            @hiisikoloart I understand, D2D really is betraying indie authors (who *made them as a business* mind you).

                            I still distribute through them but ONLY for Bookshop and ONLY because that's the only real way for me to get there.

                            I encourage you to publish widely and not rely just on KDP.
                            https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                            • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                              @hiisikoloart I understand, D2D really is betraying indie authors (who *made them as a business* mind you).

                              I still distribute through them but ONLY for Bookshop and ONLY because that's the only real way for me to get there.

                              I encourage you to publish widely and not rely just on KDP.
                              https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                              @susankayequinn
                              I am disabled so I can only do what is the easiest path at the moment. The whole end part of publishing process is very punishing for my brain cells. (^_^)*

                              I will try to get my books spread wide again, but since D2D is out....well, I don't have the fuel to go to each individual place one at the time to make sure they are available. )*: That would take far too many precious hours I don't have.

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                              • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                                @susankayequinn
                                I am disabled so I can only do what is the easiest path at the moment. The whole end part of publishing process is very punishing for my brain cells. (^_^)*

                                I will try to get my books spread wide again, but since D2D is out....well, I don't have the fuel to go to each individual place one at the time to make sure they are available. )*: That would take far too many precious hours I don't have.

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                                #55

                                @hiisikoloart I understand (and I'm sorry -- I truly hate that D2D is doing this, small indie authors are what made their business, and it's not like "small" is a permanent state -- they're discouraging new authors too, because everyone starts "small" -- just saying that maybe they'll back off on this when they realize it's an incredibly stupid move)

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                                • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                  @hiisikoloart I understand (and I'm sorry -- I truly hate that D2D is doing this, small indie authors are what made their business, and it's not like "small" is a permanent state -- they're discouraging new authors too, because everyone starts "small" -- just saying that maybe they'll back off on this when they realize it's an incredibly stupid move)

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                                  @susankayequinn
                                  I hope they back away from this desicion too and instead attack the AI slop - maybe have the books reviewed for slop covers and editing instead, and punish those who seem to publish books constantly (or have them reviewed by a human at least).

                                  If they wont...well, for many of us who have very little energy, this is a dream ender...and AI was already kicking our asses to the highest degree.

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                                  • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                                    @susankayequinn
                                    I hope they back away from this desicion too and instead attack the AI slop - maybe have the books reviewed for slop covers and editing instead, and punish those who seem to publish books constantly (or have them reviewed by a human at least).

                                    If they wont...well, for many of us who have very little energy, this is a dream ender...and AI was already kicking our asses to the highest degree.

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                                    @hiisikoloart I would (gently) encourage you to consider that it doesn't have to be a dream ender. There can be other ways to share your stories, ways that can work within the limits of your energy &other constraints. If I know anything, after 15 years of publishing, it's that READERS will find a way... they want your stories and they'll construct whole networks to get what they want. Be patient, see what develops, but don't assume the SlopSlingers will succeed in killing art. They will not.

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                                    • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                      the injury of indie authors being shoved off platforms because AI is sucking up all the storage space after the insult of those very works being stolen by AI corps to feed their slop machine

                                      (D2D and B&N both)

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                                      @susankayequinn A single bog-standard 1tb drive can easily store a million books (assuming a generous 1mb/book).

                                      Whatever other problems the fake intelligence industry is causing, a lack of storage space for ebooks is not one of them.

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                                      • aianhanma@toot.communityA aianhanma@toot.community

                                        @susankayequinn A single bog-standard 1tb drive can easily store a million books (assuming a generous 1mb/book).

                                        Whatever other problems the fake intelligence industry is causing, a lack of storage space for ebooks is not one of them.

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                                        @aianhanma my covers alone are each several MB

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                                        • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                          @hiisikoloart I understand, D2D really is betraying indie authors (who *made them as a business* mind you).

                                          I still distribute through them but ONLY for Bookshop and ONLY because that's the only real way for me to get there.

                                          I encourage you to publish widely and not rely just on KDP.
                                          https://wandering.shop/@susankayequinn/115895107254032111

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                                          @susankayequinn

                                          I will just toss out that after I stopped paying for Amazon Ads, Google Play Store has become the biggest earning place for me.

                                          And you can't reach them through D2D anyway, you have to go direct with them. They make it fairly easy, too.

                                          It took about a year for my books to take off there, but now I'm glad I publish with them.

                                          (Even if they are evil... *sigh*)

                                          @hiisikoloart

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