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  • cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

    I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

    This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

    And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

    If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

    dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.devD log@mastodon.sdf.orgL jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC danhugo@mastodon.onlineD 5 Replies Last reply
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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

      I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

      This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

      And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

      If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

      dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.devD This user is from outside of this forum
      dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.devD This user is from outside of this forum
      dunklecat@mastodon.dunklecat.dev
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      @cwebber thank you for the hard work, I really appreciate that. Looking forward reading your product!

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

        I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

        This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

        And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

        If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

        log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
        log@mastodon.sdf.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @cwebber I'm not aware of anything beyond PETA v. Slater (aka "Monkey Selfie" case).

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

          I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

          This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

          And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

          If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

          jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jrconlin@mindof.jrconlin.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cwebber

          I assume you already have Generative Artificial Intelligence and Copyright Law which does a fair bit of leg-work already.
          It cites pretty early Perlmutter v. Thaler  which states that a machine "cannot be the recognized author of a copyrighted work because the Copyright Act of 1976 requires all eligible work to be authored in the first instance by a human being. "

          (Granted, this is where I suspect that congress may amend that act to allow for AI generated materials, but that's not the case currently.)

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

            I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

            This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

            And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

            If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

            chuckmcmanis@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cwebber Hi, three cases have most of the interesting case law here (IMO), Google LLC v. Oracle America, SCO Group Inc v. International Business Machines, and Author's Guild Inc v. Google Inc.

            If you Shepard those three cases and pull the citations you will have pretty much everything you need.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              Going on an international trip. I am downloading all the case law I can find about AI and copyright law so I can give the most informed take I can about "how does generative AI affect FOSS projects going forward?"

              I'm going to focus on US case law first, including reading the recent high profile case that the US Supreme Court declined, but also the US Copyright Office's current analysis.

              This is important, I think, because right now FOSS projects are moving fast to incorporate, but without anyone really knowing what the outcome will be, there's a great chance that, even on licensing grounds alone, we could be creating a huge mess for FOSS projects.

              And (unfortunately?) my background in having done FOSS licensing stuff previously as part of my dayjob might mean I can do a pretty good job summarizing. Let's see!

              If you have case law you think I should read, put it in this thread.

              danhugo@mastodon.onlineD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cwebber

              If you need a humorous opener that is also copyright holder related…

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              Monkey selfie copyright dispute - Wikipedia

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              (en.wikipedia.org)

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