So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history.
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
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οΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
Without competent leadership, the US Navy loses the aerial battle to *checks notes* Yemen.
Yemen!
At this point, I'd like to remind folks that Yemen doesn't really have an Air Force. Some experts say that they have one functional combat plane.
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Without competent leadership, the US Navy loses the aerial battle to *checks notes* Yemen.
Yemen!
At this point, I'd like to remind folks that Yemen doesn't really have an Air Force. Some experts say that they have one functional combat plane.
@mekkaokereke Pretty crazy that in my lifetime the military might of the two cold war superpowers (US and Russia, I grew up in the end of the cold war) have been actively demonstrated to be... not great actually.
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Without competent leadership, the US Navy loses the aerial battle to *checks notes* Yemen.
Yemen!
At this point, I'd like to remind folks that Yemen doesn't really have an Air Force. Some experts say that they have one functional combat plane.
For those with short memories that think I'm being hyperbolic about the wrong leadership putting the US Navy, the most capable in the world, at a disadvantage relative to Houthi rebels with their one plane:
The US lost 8 military aircraft to the Houthis.
7 MQ-9 Reapers
1 F-18And how does it work when your plane falls off the carrier? Someone comes and tells you?
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βοΈYo... have you been up on deck yet today?
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οΈNo, why? But I'm about to head up! Gotta go fly my plane! BTW, what was that big splash?https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/28/politics/us-navy-jet-overboard/index.html
I feel the pilot's sadness.
When my laptop falls off the table and breaks, I feel a sense of loss too. Sure I can "just get a new one," but they're really expensive! And the new one doesn't feel like mine yet. The old one had my stickers and decals on it!
Basically the same thing.
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For those with short memories that think I'm being hyperbolic about the wrong leadership putting the US Navy, the most capable in the world, at a disadvantage relative to Houthi rebels with their one plane:
The US lost 8 military aircraft to the Houthis.
7 MQ-9 Reapers
1 F-18And how does it work when your plane falls off the carrier? Someone comes and tells you?
π§
βοΈYo... have you been up on deck yet today?βοΈNo, why? But I'm about to head up! Gotta go fly my plane! BTW, what was that big splash?https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/28/politics/us-navy-jet-overboard/index.html
I feel the pilot's sadness.
When my laptop falls off the table and breaks, I feel a sense of loss too. Sure I can "just get a new one," but they're really expensive! And the new one doesn't feel like mine yet. The old one had my stickers and decals on it!
Basically the same thing.
You fire dudes like this, and think it will have no impact?
It has an impact.
When it's RFK in charge of Health, we see how silly it is. They did the same competence downgrade to the military, then went to war?
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You fire dudes like this, and think it will have no impact?
It has an impact.
When it's RFK in charge of Health, we see how silly it is. They did the same competence downgrade to the military, then went to war?
You fire dudes like this, and don't think it will have an impact?
It has an impact.
Admiral Milton Sands III is a highly decorated Navy SEAL and was commander of the Naval Special Warfare Command. Basically, he was the final boss of the Navy SEALS.
He just got fired.
Listen to the respect and humility with which he and his soldiers talk about African and European military allies.
All war is awful. Civilians get hurt the most. Mostly children. This is not a glorification of war, so don't say something silly that will get you blocked.
The point is that this was just two years ago, and the way that Special Operations conducted itself and communicated, has changed that much.
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
i agree but to GOPs this terrible waste is a feature not a bug
this whole war is nonsense, if Iran was our enemy since the 1970s why the F*** did the GOP invest all that money & lives in taking down their secular well-located once powerful enemy Iraq...
i feel the whole purpose of US war in the ME is to waste money & lives for the profit of the few, it's obv. there is no plan to "win" anything <gestures wildly at Iraq>
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You fire dudes like this, and think it will have no impact?
It has an impact.
When it's RFK in charge of Health, we see how silly it is. They did the same competence downgrade to the military, then went to war?
@mekkaokereke I worked a lot with DoD when I lived in DC, and while I have massive disagreements on policy, one thing I always had was deep respect for the skill and thoughtfulness of leadership in nearly all cases.
These weren't a bunch of yahoos.
But they got rid of the adults and put a bunch of whiny useless mediocre (at best) white men in place.
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
I still don't understand how Kuwait can mistake an F-15 for anything that Iran has in its inventory?
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
"Operation Epstein Fury"
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For those with short memories that think I'm being hyperbolic about the wrong leadership putting the US Navy, the most capable in the world, at a disadvantage relative to Houthi rebels with their one plane:
The US lost 8 military aircraft to the Houthis.
7 MQ-9 Reapers
1 F-18And how does it work when your plane falls off the carrier? Someone comes and tells you?
π§
βοΈYo... have you been up on deck yet today?βοΈNo, why? But I'm about to head up! Gotta go fly my plane! BTW, what was that big splash?https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/28/politics/us-navy-jet-overboard/index.html
I feel the pilot's sadness.
When my laptop falls off the table and breaks, I feel a sense of loss too. Sure I can "just get a new one," but they're really expensive! And the new one doesn't feel like mine yet. The old one had my stickers and decals on it!
Basically the same thing.
@mekkaokereke My brother was USNA Rickover Navy Nuke. His was on the Nimitz, before retiring to spend the next 40 years as civilian DepNav nuke at Pearl /PHNSY with a stint as civ head Yokosuka. What Trump and his puppet Hegseth are doing to the Navy dishonors generations of selfless, competent, couragous, dedicated Navy sailors and Marines and the multitude of DoD civilian employees (many, former mil) who have given so much to make our Navy peerless.
*Shot down by Yemen* ... Yemen. The lack of coordination or planning cost $351M just in the cost of the planes. Trump Stupidity on the global stage.
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I still don't understand how Kuwait can mistake an F-15 for anything that Iran has in its inventory?
Iran has F-14s. There's no time to make a visual identification.
Automated systems detect a fast mover inbound, and if there are no known friendlies in the area, they have to make a call to shoot it down or not.
In some cases, the response is fully automated. Because if the F-15 is flying fast and low, the entire time window from when your radar first sees it, to when it's already past you, could be ~3 seconds.
F-15s flying fast and low.
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Without competent leadership, the US Navy loses the aerial battle to *checks notes* Yemen.
Yemen!
At this point, I'd like to remind folks that Yemen doesn't really have an Air Force. Some experts say that they have one functional combat plane.
@mekkaokereke
When a paranoid racist Stalin purged his generals in 1937, Russia with 3,000 tanks lost a war against Finland and their 32 tanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_of_the_Trotskyist_Anti-Soviet_Military_Organization -
Without competent leadership, the US Navy loses the aerial battle to *checks notes* Yemen.
Yemen!
At this point, I'd like to remind folks that Yemen doesn't really have an Air Force. Some experts say that they have one functional combat plane.
I guess the good news is they'll be bringing less competence to fight ppl in the USian cities.
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
@mekkaokereke "increasing lethality" still counts if you kill yourself
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So the F-15 is the most successful combat aircraft in modern history. 104 air combat engagements with enemy aircraft. 104 victories. Zero losses. A perfect record.
Only 6 F-15s have been lost to ground based fire in all history. 3 of those 6 were friendly fire under this Operation Epstein Fury.
Add those 3 lost F-15s, to the F-18s that fell off of ships...
βοΈAnd the helicopters that crash into civilian planes...
And you begin to understand why all this "warfighter" and "increasing lethality" talk is nonsense.
Competence matters. Communication matters.
I am not debating this with y'all.
@mekkaokereke same administration that said they wouldn't shell the freeway from san diego to LA and then promptly shelled the freeway from san diego to LA.
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@mekkaokereke My brother was USNA Rickover Navy Nuke. His was on the Nimitz, before retiring to spend the next 40 years as civilian DepNav nuke at Pearl /PHNSY with a stint as civ head Yokosuka. What Trump and his puppet Hegseth are doing to the Navy dishonors generations of selfless, competent, couragous, dedicated Navy sailors and Marines and the multitude of DoD civilian employees (many, former mil) who have given so much to make our Navy peerless.
*Shot down by Yemen* ... Yemen. The lack of coordination or planning cost $351M just in the cost of the planes. Trump Stupidity on the global stage.
The Houthis shot down the drones, but the plane loss was sillier than getting shot down.
Houthi rebels have no way of getting close to an aircraft carrier. None. Nothing they have can penetrate the concentric rings of defense around a carrier.
But if the carrier is silly enough to come close to the Houthi shore? Then Houthis can fire missiles at it.
If a missile is launched close to a carrier, it can deploy countermeasures and do evasive moves, and then jam the missile, so that the missile strikes where the carrier would have been, not where the carrier is now.
During these evasive moves, the carrier accelerates from about 15 mph to about 40 mph in under 30 seconds, and banks hard because it is turning. During this bank, the ship can tilt up to 17 degrees.π€―
Any airplane that is not chained down and doesn't have brakes applied and blocks, will start to roll.
The carrier got too close to the Houthis. The Houthis fired a missile at the carrier. The carrier did these evasive maneuvers. The plane rolled off the boat.
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This is what happened.
mekka okereke :verified: (@mekkaokereke@hachyderm.io)
@pattykimura@beige.party The Houthis shot down the drones, but the plane loss was sillier than getting shot down. Houthi rebels have no way of getting close to an aircraft carrier. None. Nothing they have can penetrate the concentric rings of defense around a carrier. But if the carrier is silly enough to come close to the Houthi shore? Then Houthis can fire missiles at it. If a missile is launched close to a carrier, it can deploy countermeasures and do evasive moves, and then jam the missile, so that the missile strikes where the carrier would have been, not where the carrier is now. During these evasive moves, the carrier accelerates from about 15 mph to about 40 mph in under 30 seconds, and banks hard because it is turning. During this bank, the ship can tilt up to 17 degrees.π€― Any airplane that is not chained down and doesn't have brakes applied and blocks, will start to roll. The carrier got too close to the Houthis. The Houthis fired a missile at the carrier. The carrier did these evasive maneuvers. The plane rolled off the ship.π€‘ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Aa9pQYrg0
Hachyderm.io (hachyderm.io)
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i agree but to GOPs this terrible waste is a feature not a bug
this whole war is nonsense, if Iran was our enemy since the 1970s why the F*** did the GOP invest all that money & lives in taking down their secular well-located once powerful enemy Iraq...
i feel the whole purpose of US war in the ME is to waste money & lives for the profit of the few, it's obv. there is no plan to "win" anything <gestures wildly at Iraq>
@peachfront @mekkaokereke Makes me think about the great purge in Russia just before WW2, lots of the top leadership got removed, and it didn't go well for them when Hitler stabbed them in the back a few years later.
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