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  3. "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

"Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

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  • bagder@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
    bagder@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

    I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

    ticho@mas.toT zaphodb@twitter.resolvt.netZ larsmb@mastodon.onlineL 2bfair@infosec.exchange2 kattebel@hachyderm.ioK 6 Replies Last reply
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    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

      "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

      I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

      ticho@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @bagder Don't worry about it, just use libcurl to... oh, wait...

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      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

        "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

        I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

        zaphodb@twitter.resolvt.netZ This user is from outside of this forum
        zaphodb@twitter.resolvt.netZ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @bagder it’s called terminating for a reason 😉

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        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

          "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

          I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

          larsmb@mastodon.onlineL This user is from outside of this forum
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          @bagder Curious as to why, I thought a trailing dot served a specific purpose that is useful?

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          • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

            @bagder Curious as to why, I thought a trailing dot served a specific purpose that is useful?

            bagder@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @larsmb on the Internet, that purpose is lost

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            • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

              "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

              I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

              2bfair@infosec.exchange2 This user is from outside of this forum
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              @bagder My understanding is that's a core part of DNS so unlikely to change without redesigning DNS. I have wondered if part of the issue is that it gets abstracted away/ignored in implementation (i.e. you dont have to add the trailing dot in many things for an address to work).

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              • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

                I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

                kattebel@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                @bagder I remember a guy in school making a real point out of the fact that the trailing period is valid, and as far as he was concerned, the preferred way!

                I'm sure he turned his DNS passion into a profession

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                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                  "Trailing dots in hostnames is a menace and a plague that keeps haunting us and the world at large."

                  I felt I had to put this into this CVE advisory I'm drafting...

                  zl2tod@mastodon.onlineZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @bagder

                  It's always DNS.

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                  • 2bfair@infosec.exchange2 2bfair@infosec.exchange

                    @bagder My understanding is that's a core part of DNS so unlikely to change without redesigning DNS. I have wondered if part of the issue is that it gets abstracted away/ignored in implementation (i.e. you dont have to add the trailing dot in many things for an address to work).

                    starlily@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @2Bfair @bagder BIND != DNS

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                    • starlily@mastodon.socialS starlily@mastodon.social

                      @2Bfair @bagder BIND != DNS

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                      @starlily @bagder

                      True but the trailing dot is still a core part of DNS.

                      RFC 1035

                      s make up a large share of the data in the master file.
                      The labels in the domain name are expressed as character strings and
                      separated by dots. Quoting conventions allow arbitrary characters to be
                      stored in domain names. Domain names that end in a dot are called
                      absolute, and are taken as complete. Domain names which do not end in a
                      dot are called relative; the actual domain name is the concatenation of
                      the relative part with an origin specified in a $ORIGIN, $INCLUDE, or as
                      an argument to the master file loading routine. A relative name is an
                      error when no origin is available.

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                      • 2bfair@infosec.exchange2 2bfair@infosec.exchange

                        @bagder My understanding is that's a core part of DNS so unlikely to change without redesigning DNS. I have wondered if part of the issue is that it gets abstracted away/ignored in implementation (i.e. you dont have to add the trailing dot in many things for an address to work).

                        bagder@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @2Bfair https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/12/a-tale-of-a-trailing-dot/

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                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                          @2Bfair https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/05/12/a-tale-of-a-trailing-dot/

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                          @bagder Thanks, I see the headache you're referring to. Good prediction that it wasn't the last time you'd run into it being an issue.

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