#StarFleetAcademy
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No spoilers
After S01E08, I finally get it. I can now frame SFA as Trek. Or, that is, I can frame it in a way that I recognize from my GenX lifetime of watching syndicated TOS, seeing all of the films between several and dozens of times, though to the present.
SFA isn't discovering new life and new civilizations—not, in the big bold ways of older Trek. Instead, it is exactly that exploration but where each person is that new life and new civilization. They're all exploring. They're all trying to make sense of each other. They're all trying to figure out how to connect. To form their own federation.
Sure, there are some Star Trek 90210 episodes. Yet even those all have been wound into this skein of discovering one another.
It's Star Trek. But instead of boldly going, it is an exploration of the individual worlds of each of these beings. And of how these worlds grow together.
In this way, I see the heart of the Star Trek that I have always known and loved. In a very personal way, because of this, I feel seen.
cc @virtualbri because y'all have been outdoing yourselves.
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No spoilers
After S01E08, I finally get it. I can now frame SFA as Trek. Or, that is, I can frame it in a way that I recognize from my GenX lifetime of watching syndicated TOS, seeing all of the films between several and dozens of times, though to the present.
SFA isn't discovering new life and new civilizations—not, in the big bold ways of older Trek. Instead, it is exactly that exploration but where each person is that new life and new civilization. They're all exploring. They're all trying to make sense of each other. They're all trying to figure out how to connect. To form their own federation.
Sure, there are some Star Trek 90210 episodes. Yet even those all have been wound into this skein of discovering one another.
It's Star Trek. But instead of boldly going, it is an exploration of the individual worlds of each of these beings. And of how these worlds grow together.
In this way, I see the heart of the Star Trek that I have always known and loved. In a very personal way, because of this, I feel seen.
cc @virtualbri because y'all have been outdoing yourselves.
@elight @virtualbri @startrek I can accept the connection. It's a different Trek, but stays true to the soul of Star Trek.
What bothers me is when they throw in so much anachronistic elements into a world over 1000 years in the future. We still have high school style gyms and roller board luggage we need to sit on to close... in the future? It's a little too familiar a place sometimes. Trek used to envision the future not the past.
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@elight @virtualbri @startrek I can accept the connection. It's a different Trek, but stays true to the soul of Star Trek.
What bothers me is when they throw in so much anachronistic elements into a world over 1000 years in the future. We still have high school style gyms and roller board luggage we need to sit on to close... in the future? It's a little too familiar a place sometimes. Trek used to envision the future not the past.
@johnofrobotz @virtualbri @startrek Sure. There are anachronisms. I mentally stub my toe against those. In 08, when Ocam says, "Sick". Linguistic anachronisms often disrupt my suspension of disbelief.
Yet, I realize, we have to allow for some anachronisms. How can we possibly relate to a future a millennia from our present when perhaps almost every social construct we've had has been altered or replaced so thoroughly as to be unrecognizable? What would we look like and sound like to those living in the Dark Ages?
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@elight @virtualbri @startrek I can accept the connection. It's a different Trek, but stays true to the soul of Star Trek.
What bothers me is when they throw in so much anachronistic elements into a world over 1000 years in the future. We still have high school style gyms and roller board luggage we need to sit on to close... in the future? It's a little too familiar a place sometimes. Trek used to envision the future not the past.
@johnofrobotz @elight And it’s so unrealistic that someone as high profile as the captain of the federation’s flagship would be bald, like they couldn’t cure baldness by the 24th century!
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No spoilers
After S01E08, I finally get it. I can now frame SFA as Trek. Or, that is, I can frame it in a way that I recognize from my GenX lifetime of watching syndicated TOS, seeing all of the films between several and dozens of times, though to the present.
SFA isn't discovering new life and new civilizations—not, in the big bold ways of older Trek. Instead, it is exactly that exploration but where each person is that new life and new civilization. They're all exploring. They're all trying to make sense of each other. They're all trying to figure out how to connect. To form their own federation.
Sure, there are some Star Trek 90210 episodes. Yet even those all have been wound into this skein of discovering one another.
It's Star Trek. But instead of boldly going, it is an exploration of the individual worlds of each of these beings. And of how these worlds grow together.
In this way, I see the heart of the Star Trek that I have always known and loved. In a very personal way, because of this, I feel seen.
cc @virtualbri because y'all have been outdoing yourselves.
@elight I remember how many people bitched and moaned about DS9 not being real Star Trek. They were in a space station! Not going anywhere! How could it possibly be any good?! Same people several decades later wearing Niners baseball shirts and calling their children Ezri before making hate posts on Twitter about Starfleet Academy and Discovery not being real Star Trek.
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@johnofrobotz @elight And it’s so unrealistic that someone as high profile as the captain of the federation’s flagship would be bald, like they couldn’t cure baldness by the 24th century!
@semanticist @johnofrobotz @elight
Maybe for some baldness is a feature, not a flaw.In the future, of course.
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@johnofrobotz @virtualbri @startrek Sure. There are anachronisms. I mentally stub my toe against those. In 08, when Ocam says, "Sick". Linguistic anachronisms often disrupt my suspension of disbelief.
Yet, I realize, we have to allow for some anachronisms. How can we possibly relate to a future a millennia from our present when perhaps almost every social construct we've had has been altered or replaced so thoroughly as to be unrecognizable? What would we look like and sound like to those living in the Dark Ages?
@elight @johnofrobotz @startrek
SFA is over a thousand years from the present. 600 year old English is a struggle to understand. This is a show for people *now* about *now*, so there has to be shortcuts for understanding. Or else it's a sociological exercise, not a TV show.
The amount of people who want to watch a creation of just how different things would actually be I think is a lot smaller than who want to watch Star Trek as it is.
Also new language needs to be defined and explained
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@elight @johnofrobotz @startrek
SFA is over a thousand years from the present. 600 year old English is a struggle to understand. This is a show for people *now* about *now*, so there has to be shortcuts for understanding. Or else it's a sociological exercise, not a TV show.
The amount of people who want to watch a creation of just how different things would actually be I think is a lot smaller than who want to watch Star Trek as it is.
Also new language needs to be defined and explained
@virtualbri @elight @startrek this is true but Trek was also the visionary of new things in a way. Top of my head is the communicator to the flip phone. The mechanic that was used to ground events in the past was literally time travel or the holodeck. The show that seems to live in the present but cast in the future is an excusable beef of mine, but noticeable.
And WHERE'S TILLY? She went off to teach at the academy and I thought she for sure would be at there.
