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This is another violation of the securities laws, not that anyone cares anymore.

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    This is another violation of the securities laws, not that anyone cares anymore.

    (Now that the S-1 is public, SpaceX is allowed to release this kind of information, but technically -

    reuters.com

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      This is another violation of the securities laws, not that anyone cares anymore.

      (Now that the S-1 is public, SpaceX is allowed to release this kind of information, but technically -

      reuters.com

      favicon

      (www.reuters.com)

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      it needs to come with a legend stating they are not currently selling securities and directing investors to the S-1).

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        it needs to come with a legend stating they are not currently selling securities and directing investors to the S-1).

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        17 CFR § 230.134 - Communications not deemed a prospectus.

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        LII / Legal Information Institute (www.law.cornell.edu)

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        @annmlipton Is that obligation on the issuer or anyone recapitulating the information, or both?

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          @annmlipton Is that obligation on the issuer or anyone recapitulating the information, or both?

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          @theofrancis it's only the issuer, but that includes issuer leaks to journalists.You guys can write what you want - the obligation is on them.

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            it needs to come with a legend stating they are not currently selling securities and directing investors to the S-1).

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            17 CFR § 230.134 - Communications not deemed a prospectus.

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            LII / Legal Information Institute (www.law.cornell.edu)

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            And yes this is a lot less serious than the leaks of the contents of the S-1 before it was public, but it shows how cavalierly the securities laws are being treated.

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              And yes this is a lot less serious than the leaks of the contents of the S-1 before it was public, but it shows how cavalierly the securities laws are being treated.

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              By the way, usually pricing is set at the very last minute, after you've had conversations with investors and have gotten a sense of what they want to pay, and how many shares you can sell.

              My guess - and I don't know - is that that's harder to do when you plan to allocate so many shares to retail,

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                By the way, usually pricing is set at the very last minute, after you've had conversations with investors and have gotten a sense of what they want to pay, and how many shares you can sell.

                My guess - and I don't know - is that that's harder to do when you plan to allocate so many shares to retail,

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                And they don't want to actually put the figures in the documents and formally amend them, so these leaks are easier ways to test the market.

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                  And they don't want to actually put the figures in the documents and formally amend them, so these leaks are easier ways to test the market.

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                  Plus, they are only permitted to have formal roadshows - meaning, live presentations to (in this case) retail investors - 15 days after they filed the first S-1. And they want to hold the IPO almost immediately after that. The condensed timeline may mean -

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                    Plus, they are only permitted to have formal roadshows - meaning, live presentations to (in this case) retail investors - 15 days after they filed the first S-1. And they want to hold the IPO almost immediately after that. The condensed timeline may mean -

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                    - they are trying to get their story out before they're formally allowed to schmooze.

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                    • annmlipton@esq.socialA annmlipton@esq.social

                      - they are trying to get their story out before they're formally allowed to schmooze.

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                      And I really need to emphasize, the reason for this formality - no leaks of the confidential S-1, announcements like pricing need a legend, etc - is to slow down the process so investors have time to digest everything before they're ready to buy.

                      What SpaceX is doing is ... the other thing.

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