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Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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  • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

    Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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    #6

    @glennf @siracusa our Volvo (2024 full EV XC40) is only missing the temp/fan speed physical controls out of that list.

    I definitely prefer the physicality of it compared to the Teslas I’ve driven.

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    • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

      Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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      @glennf @siracusa Yes! Yes! Yes! The essential controls should be usable by a blind person wearing gloves - because when we are driving we shouldn’t need to look at these things to use them, removing our attention from what’s happening on the road. And gloves because that ensures they aren’t tiny little buttons and knobs, and because until the car warms up in winter I keep my gloves on (or I did back when I lived with Chicago winters). And not just EVs. All cars

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      • billbraine@newsie.socialB billbraine@newsie.social

        @glennf @siracusa

        My 2020 Bolt checks all these boxes except climate fan speed.

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        #8

        @glennf @siracusa

        Wait I got back in the car & I see that it checks all those boxes! Climate on/off controls are on the touch screen but fan speed, temp & def/mid/feet selector are physical buttons. (I test drove a Tesla once & it bit.)

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        • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

          Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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          #9

          @glennf @siracusa sicko

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          • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

            Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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            #10

            @glennf @siracusa except for the touch sensitive controls on the steering and only temp controls on the center cluster, my Volkswagen ID.4 checks all these.

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            • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

              Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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              #11

              @glennf

              The mirrors thing and the door handles thing should be LAW, that's a safety issue. Both mirrors and doors should be required to be fully operable without electric power of any kind. (Defrost/demist excepted.) This includes manual wing mirror adjust! Those little motors break far too easily. (they ALL DO.)

              @siracusa

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              • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                #12

                @glennf @siracusa These should be required by law

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                • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                  Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                  #13

                  @glennf @siracusa I have a 2023 (I think) Kia Niro EV. It does not break any of these recommendations, and I've been very happy with this car.

                  Later models do not. I'm not sure what to do when it's time to replace this car.

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                  • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                    Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                    #14

                    @glennf @siracusa
                    Good list. I have a couple of recommendations myself:

                    1) As mentioned in the article, the Batteries make up a HUGE percentage of the cost of an #EV. Car Makers SHOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE BATTERIES (see attachment for why.)

                    2) The gov't needs to STANDARDIZE EV BATTERIES so every car doesn't use it's own custom battery pack. This will allow for BATTERY SWAP STATIONS where any EV owner can drive up and install a fully charged battery in 2 minutes (no more 1hour wait times.)

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                    • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                      Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                      #15

                      @glennf @siracusa This has all of my gripes plus a few I'd not considered. I've never driven a car with a rear view "screen mirror" so haven't experienced the focal depth-switching issue but knowing my eyes I would hate it instantly.

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                      • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                        Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                        #16

                        Re: LB: As someone whose car is 15 years old and barely has Bluetooth, let alone a big touchscreen, is this actually a thing in some new cars?

                        "Physical controls for air flow and direction. Grabbing a vent control and pointing it in the desired direction is much more obvious and efficient than navigating a touch-screen menu and then dragging your finger on a visualization of the car interior to try to direct the air flow. By all means, have electronically actuated vent controls to change the air flow for vents that are unreachable from the driver’s seat, but all vents should be physically controllable by the people who can reach them."

                        Do you actually have to control the vents through a menu, rather than just, y'know, moving them with your fingers?

                        Because if so, that's genuinely insane.

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                        • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                          Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                          @glennf I drive a 2023 Hyundai Kona Electric and it checks all those boxes.
                          @siracusa

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                          • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                            Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                            @glennf @siracusa lots of goodness in that article.

                            The one trip to New Zealand where I rented a car demonstrated that using a turn signal stalk was so ingrained in my muscle memory that I hoped people knew I wanted to turn when my windshield wipers ran on a dry day

                            My newest vehicle is a 2016 F250. To turn on the heated seats you have to tap on a 1cm square icon. If you miss it, it brings up another screen where the icon is bigger but in a different location

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                            • mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.socialM mugsysrapsheet@mastodon.social

                              @glennf @siracusa
                              Good list. I have a couple of recommendations myself:

                              1) As mentioned in the article, the Batteries make up a HUGE percentage of the cost of an #EV. Car Makers SHOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE BATTERIES (see attachment for why.)

                              2) The gov't needs to STANDARDIZE EV BATTERIES so every car doesn't use it's own custom battery pack. This will allow for BATTERY SWAP STATIONS where any EV owner can drive up and install a fully charged battery in 2 minutes (no more 1hour wait times.)

                              Link Preview Image
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                              @MugsysRapSheet @glennf @siracusa my comments here are my thoughts and should not be taken as negative comments directed at anyone as that’s not my intention.

                              Battery swapping is about to become redundant. Emerging tech in cars for sale now in CN (and this year EU) can charge at 1.5mW, and it is being put into affordable cars. Example being the ‘27 BYD Yuan Plus (Atto 3 in my market). Flash charging 10-97% in under 10 minutes and in an affordable market segment.
                              Many EVs in my country are at or below price parity with comparable ice cars. Flash charging is not far behind.
                              Battery swapping is a good idea in the heavy trucking industry, but has already been solved in the passenger car industry.
                              Many EV manufacturers don’t dictate their batteries, they use what they can source from manufacturers like CATL, BYD, Panasonic, LG. Regulation in a few countries for swappable batteries may risk manufacturers walking away from those markets.

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                              • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                                Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                                @glennf @siracusa
                                The design teams from the core of car companies are now converging on the EV projects. Some of them hoped it wouldn't happen or tested it would fail. Others were busy.

                                Aerodynamics is important. A flushish mechanical pop out handle would be nice. It may come.

                                Comparator for battery cost is the engine, gearbox...and all the petrol it will ever burn. Minus by all means the electricity.

                                (Mine's a VW ID.3 which I like a lot.)

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                                • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

                                  @glennf @siracusa
                                  The design teams from the core of car companies are now converging on the EV projects. Some of them hoped it wouldn't happen or tested it would fail. Others were busy.

                                  Aerodynamics is important. A flushish mechanical pop out handle would be nice. It may come.

                                  Comparator for battery cost is the engine, gearbox...and all the petrol it will ever burn. Minus by all means the electricity.

                                  (Mine's a VW ID.3 which I like a lot.)

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                                  #21

                                  @Photo55 See the “1” footnote on my article on the topic of door handles.

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                                  • siracusa@mastodon.socialS siracusa@mastodon.social

                                    @Photo55 See the “1” footnote on my article on the topic of door handles.

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                                    @siracusa article is still in my queue, I'll do that.

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                                    • billbraine@newsie.socialB billbraine@newsie.social

                                      @glennf @siracusa

                                      Wait I got back in the car & I see that it checks all those boxes! Climate on/off controls are on the touch screen but fan speed, temp & def/mid/feet selector are physical buttons. (I test drove a Tesla once & it bit.)

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                                      @BillBraine @glennf @siracusa
                                      My 2017 Bolt is the same. I'm still so happy with it almost six years after buying it used.
                                      I rented a Tesla maybe four or five years ago and i hated it. It's fast and it got where i needed to go but the entire ride i felt like i was barely controlling a wild horse because it would attempt to drive me into things and the only thing that prevented an accident was the fact i was always holding that wheel like the car was trying to kill me

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                                      • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                                        Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                                        @glennf First time renting a Tesla felt quite dangerous. I had to repeatedly pull off the highway to figure out how to operate various controls. And the lack of a physical manual in the car added to the frustration.

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                                        • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                                          Never have I screamed aloud YES YES and pumped my fist in agreement more at something @siracusa has written than this https://hypercritical.co/2026/05/29/ev-stupidity-checklist

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                                          @glennf @siracusa I will never choose a car that does not have an indicator stalk when there is one that does

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