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I'm not here to defend this.
I'm here to defend the fact that I have a 20 year old car and cannot afford one of Elon Musk's $90k cars.♫ Gimmee gimmie
♫ Whoa! Whoa!
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@barnesmaurice lovely
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@threecoloured @jmaris Yeah, but at least you have trains. We only have a few for long distance travel, and they have to share tracks with freight trains.
Imagine having to drive everywhere. All the time.
@c_merriweather @threecoloured sounds bad, but hey, it keeps the racists happy because it imposes segregation by other means
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@jmaris not in Germany 🥲
@threecoloured No, in Germany we drink a beer
In all seriousness, I commuted regularly by regional train in Germany, but I must admit long distance trains are poor ATM
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@jmaris keep in my mind after a point most of the us stopped building for railway infrastructure, and a LOT of the towns and cities just didn't bother with mass transit beyond maybe buses and some cabs. Quite possibly a poor decision in hindsight....but that's in part why it's like that today and if you don't work from home....it's quite likely you get to sit in traffic for 20 minutes to in bigger cities HOURS.
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@jmaris not in Germany 🥲
@threecoloured @jmaris Yeah, but there you all *drive* at 200mph 🤪
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@jmaris There are worse cars to be imprisoned in. At least an Accord's doors open when the engine catches fire
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@jmaris Not with Deutsche Bahn I'm not
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@jmaris each model year the accord gets bigger so check mate or something
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It's a Camry, damnit. My prison is a Camry
I was so excited early in my California migration, to learn that there was a high speed rail coming. That was over 40 years ago.
It's planning to finally lay some tracks, soon, for real this time. I actually believe it. But I believe I won't live to see the end phase, the one I would have used.
Sigh.
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I think it’s funny because Canadian just got in a hissy fit over being told that walkable cities and localizing farming, equating it to returning to medieval existence. He got even angrier when I suggested that doing these measures instead of EV or alternative energy is more important because it reduces resource demand. Oil energy is an essential cornerstone of the modern economy, but so are the feed stocks derived from it that are used to manufacture everything else with that energy.
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I wonder in which country except Switzerland. Even in Austia, where there's a rather good train system, many prefer to stand in traffic jams.
And in many European countries, it's even worse than here. The trains might be better on time, but often there are only few.
OK, still better than in the USA, but that's easy.Almost anything is better than US train schedules. For local transit the frequency of about 10 minutes is really ideal in 15 minutes is probably the maximum before public transportation becomes frustrating to people.
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@c_merriweather @threecoloured sounds bad, but hey, it keeps the racists happy because it imposes segregation by other means
@jmaris @c_merriweather @threecoloured
Even racist have budgets
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@threecoloured@troet.cafe @jmaris@eupolicy.social
I wonder in which country except Switzerland. Even in Austia, where there's a rather good train system, many prefer to stand in traffic jams.
And in many European countries, it's even worse than here. The trains might be better on time, but often there are only few.
OK, still better than in the USA, but that's easy.@mort @jmaris @threecoloured trains are great if you're living in the city and your destination is a city as well. Or another location with a good train connection like airport or some lucky tourist site. If you're not living or going to these places, riding a train means waiting a lot at cold, windy and dirty train stations among a sea of strangers while switching trains, hoping the train makes it on time. I like public transport, but when at home, I do very much prefer individual transport.
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@threecoloured@troet.cafe @jmaris@eupolicy.social
I wonder in which country except Switzerland. Even in Austia, where there's a rather good train system, many prefer to stand in traffic jams.
And in many European countries, it's even worse than here. The trains might be better on time, but often there are only few.
OK, still better than in the USA, but that's easy.1. French railway system is reliable, fast (TGV) and punctual... when there are no strikes. France has a long history with railway, pity it is too centralized around Paris which is efficient but not resilient. Also, it is not dense enough making car remaining a necessity for many.
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This isn't the reason I swore off cars 50 years ago. But it's certainly one to add to the list....
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@jmaris This always makes me wonder what freedom they refer to. The only "freedom" I can think of that they have and we don't is to freely own guns.
And then they have a lot of other restrictions that we don't have. So... do they really think like this?
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@mort @jmaris @threecoloured trains are great if you're living in the city and your destination is a city as well. Or another location with a good train connection like airport or some lucky tourist site. If you're not living or going to these places, riding a train means waiting a lot at cold, windy and dirty train stations among a sea of strangers while switching trains, hoping the train makes it on time. I like public transport, but when at home, I do very much prefer individual transport.
@durchaus @mort @threecoloured that really depends on where you live.
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@jmaris True freedom is to belong somewhere.
True freedom is being able to do the right thing.
I'll never forget how it felt sitting on a train as it raced through the forest at night between Salzburg and Munich, but nowadays it would have to stop at the German border for a passport check.
Wish we could still be smug about living in Europe.
