I'm so tired of the whole " #AI has democratised #art " narrative.
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@astro_jcm That! One of the reasons I've spent over twenty years of my life on #krita was to make it possible for _everyone_ to do digital painting. The application has a learning curve, but then, so have oil paint, copic markers or even pencils.
Becoming good, or decent at something that takes effort is fun and enriching.
@halla Yes! Free software like Krita is wonderful. Thanks for your work!
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@astro_jcm commoditised feels more accurate. Take the individuality away and make it an interchangeable product. “I would like three arts, please.”
@undercarbonated "Commoditised" is spot on.
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I'm so tired of the whole " #AI has democratised #art " narrative. Cheap or even free creative tools and learning resources have existed for decades. Not wanting to become good at something is not the same as not having the resources to do it.
Speaking of resources, something AI is excelling at is increasing the price of computers by hoarding RAM and disk space, thus making things harder for less privileged creative folks. How very democratic.
@astro_jcm red ochre on a cave wall democratized art and if your bison look weird and fat you just wash it off and try again
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@astro_jcm red ochre on a cave wall democratized art and if your bison look weird and fat you just wash it off and try again
@astro_jcm democratized is not a word that means, "stole, mashed up, and then resold"
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I'm so tired of the whole " #AI has democratised #art " narrative. Cheap or even free creative tools and learning resources have existed for decades. Not wanting to become good at something is not the same as not having the resources to do it.
Speaking of resources, something AI is excelling at is increasing the price of computers by hoarding RAM and disk space, thus making things harder for less privileged creative folks. How very democratic.
@astro_jcm except we need to take into account that it really is serving a value-add to the general public and we can't just "turn off" deep learning systems and expect everyone to be happy about it.
We can't replace every random person generating cute penguins playing guitar photos with real artists, its not remotely feasible. -
I'm so tired of the whole " #AI has democratised #art " narrative. Cheap or even free creative tools and learning resources have existed for decades. Not wanting to become good at something is not the same as not having the resources to do it.
Speaking of resources, something AI is excelling at is increasing the price of computers by hoarding RAM and disk space, thus making things harder for less privileged creative folks. How very democratic.
It's kinda like saying cheating tools have democratized counter-strike.
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@halla Yes! Free software like Krita is wonderful. Thanks for your work!
@astro_jcm @halla
Krita is accelerating the creation of cool stuff massivly. Thank you for the tool! -
I'm so tired of the whole " #AI has democratised #art " narrative. Cheap or even free creative tools and learning resources have existed for decades. Not wanting to become good at something is not the same as not having the resources to do it.
Speaking of resources, something AI is excelling at is increasing the price of computers by hoarding RAM and disk space, thus making things harder for less privileged creative folks. How very democratic.
@astro_jcm there’s also a question of intent.
Artistic endeavours start as a form of play. For some that play evolves into an aesthetic exercise, a form of craft in support of design. That can take great skill, but it is also different from an explicit attempt to express something. The latter is what we tend to categorise as “Art”.
One could choose to make an artistic expression using AI, but it would be a bit like commissioning a painter to do it for you. Why? Would you be taken seriously?
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@astro_jcm commoditised feels more accurate. Take the individuality away and make it an interchangeable product. “I would like three arts, please.”
@undercarbonated Art has been a commodity for a pretty long time (exhibit A: you can buy art at IKEA; exhibit B: 18th century painters had what were basically production lines for portraits). Sure, there were and still are people who paint just for the fun of it, but there's also piles of people who still make furniture just for the fun of it long after furniture had been turned into a commodity. Don't romanticise art
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@astro_jcm there’s also a question of intent.
Artistic endeavours start as a form of play. For some that play evolves into an aesthetic exercise, a form of craft in support of design. That can take great skill, but it is also different from an explicit attempt to express something. The latter is what we tend to categorise as “Art”.
One could choose to make an artistic expression using AI, but it would be a bit like commissioning a painter to do it for you. Why? Would you be taken seriously?
@tealeg Agreed, intent is definitely key here, and major reason why AI slop feels empty and pointless, no matter how "good" it might look from a purely technical and superficial point of view.
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