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  • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

    Great quote: "The opposite of poverty is not wealth, it is justice".

    #KiaTikaKiaPono

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    @Phil_Tanner "Poverty, By America" by Matthew Desmond is another good source of ideas and quotes. #books
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty,_by_America

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    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

      So, after a full day yesterday (0900-1730) of 150-200 odd people in the lecture theatre, this was the reading at the end, as the last speaker was receiving their koha.

      For those not as familiar with the readings, it was 518 outside just now, so this is basically "fresh air". My (big, government) office NEVER falls below 850, and meeting rooms often climb to over 2000 inside 20 mins.

      A packed peak time commuter train on recirculated air is about 1600.

      So this is AMAZING.

      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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      @Phil_Tanner Phew, that's a relief!

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      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

        "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

        It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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        @Phil_Tanner lovely. I am getting interested in "folk indicators of economic performance", and this is a good one. My favourite so far is "how long do I have to wait for a visit by a specialist", like a dermatologist or some such.

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        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

          "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

          It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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          @Phil_Tanner
          That's really insightful -thanks.

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          • greenchristian@climatejustice.socialG greenchristian@climatejustice.social

            @Phil_Tanner
            That's really insightful -thanks.

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            @GreenChristian to be clear, this is a quote from an ex-Green MP here in Aotearoa NZ, giving a speech at a conference I attended, it's not a quote from me.

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            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

              @GreenChristian to be clear, this is a quote from an ex-Green MP here in Aotearoa NZ, giving a speech at a conference I attended, it's not a quote from me.

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              @Phil_Tanner
              well, I'm grateful for your curation of it.

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              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                @Phil_Tanner
                "A rich city is not one where the poor have cars, it's one where the rich ride public transit!"

                I forget who said it -- pretty sure it was some South American statesman with a keen eye.

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                • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                  "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                  It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                  #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                  @Phil_Tanner With all of the sub-messages: girls have access to education, and are free to circulate without harassment, ...

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                  • erik@mastodon.infrageeks.socialE erik@mastodon.infrageeks.social

                    @Phil_Tanner With all of the sub-messages: girls have access to education, and are free to circulate without harassment, ...

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                    @erik indeed

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                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                      "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                      It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                      @Phil_Tanner This whole thread is fascinating, thank you for sharing!

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                      • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                        "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                        It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                        #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                        @Phil_Tanner That's a really good metric. I like it.

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                        • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                          "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                          It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                          #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                          @Phil_Tanner ...distances to the next school...

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                          • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                            About to start a 2.5 day conference at Vic Uni.

                            Really looking forward to it ❤️

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                            @Phil_Tanner
                            Thank you for taking us along on this journey and letting us be a part of it.
                            There’s a lot I haven’t understood (yet? 😅), but much of it has inspired me and brought me a sense of inner peace, because it feels good to know that my horizons have been broadened.🙏

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                            • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                              "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                              It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                              #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                              @Phil_Tanner The difference being that I understand what GDP measures (and that in 90% of articles it's a wrongly chosen metric), but I have no idea what your metric says about anything.

                              In my country:
                              - access to education: spectacular
                              - gender equality: about EU average
                              - road safety: good
                              - environment: good

                              Still I haven't met a single girl riding her bike to school during my whole life. And only a small handful of boys, me being one of them (long time ago).

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                              • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                "How many girls are riding their bikes to school?" is a better measure of a country's success than GDP.

                                It tells you about so much more; about access to education, gender equality, road safety, the environment...

                                #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                @Phil_Tanner Social safety for girls and those who identify as girls.

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                                  @HeavyMetalWings the concept of the whole conference was about building a fair and just society - not about building a country. So i don't think we're in any disagreement here

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                                  • chrastecky@phpc.socialC chrastecky@phpc.social

                                    @Phil_Tanner The difference being that I understand what GDP measures (and that in 90% of articles it's a wrongly chosen metric), but I have no idea what your metric says about anything.

                                    In my country:
                                    - access to education: spectacular
                                    - gender equality: about EU average
                                    - road safety: good
                                    - environment: good

                                    Still I haven't met a single girl riding her bike to school during my whole life. And only a small handful of boys, me being one of them (long time ago).

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                                    @chrastecky to be clear, it's not "my" metric. This was a quote from a conference i was attending and "live tooting".

                                    But that aside, I'm interested to hear why you think the number of children cycling to school is so low in your country?

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                                    • phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.comP phil_tanner@mastodon.philtanner.com

                                      There is no point claiming the purpose of a system is to do what it consistently fails to do. A system is what it does.

                                      The economy is not a law of nature, it is a system designed to keep power concentrated.

                                      The economy is presented as an external force, we need to do X to appease it. It is us and our decisions we make. We designed it, we can redesign it. But the master's tools cannot dismantle the master's house.

                                      #KiaTikaKiaPono

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                                      @Phil_Tanner the economy is downstream of politics but the financiers and politicians like to pretend the opposite

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